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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2019, 18:57:45 »
Not flushed out, but have left purposely. It's very sad to see how many have actually left because of the antisemitism row and Corbyns leadership. I think this is an eye opener. Their party is falling apart.  #-o

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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2019, 20:33:24 »
Not flushed out, but have left purposely. It's very sad to see how many have actually left because of the antisemitism row and Corbyns leadership. I think this is an eye opener. Their party is falling apart.  #-o

You might have to open the picture in a seperate tab  XD


Good clip with John Bercow
https://twitter.com/Socialist_Chris/status/1192512875832729600

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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2019, 21:33:44 »
I think that's a cherry pick of information. It's not that he's a racist, its the fact mps left because he hasn't bothered with resolving the issue in his own party, and felt uncomfortable. Hes a man with his own interests. He's a terrorist sympathasiser, who called Hamas and Hezbollah friends, and repeatedly refused to condemn ira bombing. He constantly blocks the vote of a democratic society, he has mps.. several mps that have left due to antisemitism.. that list goes on too.

I would vote for Labour, but not Corbyn. I don't think he will be a good leader  [-(

I wonder what else is going to come out in the news in the next few days  :3

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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2019, 22:40:31 »
The last point shows that he has tried to combat it in his party, a lot of it in my opinion is a smear campaign by the big corporations who he plans to ensure they pay their taxes.

I don't think he is self interested, at least the lesser of the potential candidates for PM he is someone who's spent their entire life protesting for change and remained very consistent.

This is someone who has their own interests -


Is she for real?  XD

I think the problem with Corbyn isn't the smear campaign stuff the media wants us to believe, it's how he will fund all his ambitious policies, like removing University fees.

And Conservative Pm's have also quit Boris Johnsons party since he became PM, I don't know how the numbers compare to labour's but they've both suffered. Although In my opinion I'm happy with the people who've left Labour, it will make them better in the future thats for certain  \:D/

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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2019, 23:18:57 »
Although the removal of fees for universities would be fabulous, you're right, where's the money going to come from?

Haha that picture!

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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2019, 06:56:16 »
Interesting thread! I don't follow up on UK politics, let alone U.S. politics #-o I'll definitely be following along now!
Karel de Stoute

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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2019, 11:23:08 »


So sad  :/

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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2019, 13:14:11 »
Nigel Farage announces the Brexit party will *not* running a full slate of candidates in #ge2019.

Farage standing down candidates from 317 Tory held seats - game changer for Boris Johnson.



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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #38 on: November 11, 2019, 17:49:06 »
He's a terrorist sympathasiser, who called Hamas and Hezbollah friends, and repeatedly refused to condemn ira bombing.

The whole terrorist sympathiser is pure spin and part of the large smear campaign against the man. This is a man that is a peace monger. If he came out and condemned any of them, they will refuse to speak with him, and he could no longer try and influence peace. I've never seen a politician receive so much hate from the media, they are quite obviously scared of him.

And ok the labour party has an anti semitism issue, but the conservatives have an out and out racist at its helm, who referred to muslim women as letterboxes and black people as piccaninnies with watermelon smiles. This is why I will not vote for a conservative party that has Boris in charge. I still don't know where my vote will land, but I can't cross that box for the tories as I have for the past 2 elections.


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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #39 on: November 11, 2019, 17:55:37 »
I agree  neither of them are perfect. But as a party we stand a  better chance with the Tories. On the radio the other day, the radio presenter explained that Labour want to spend 400 billion pounds on investment, and Peter dowd, in  charge of labour treasury was asked, who's going to pay for this 400b pounds investment, he replied, well, the British people will pay for it.

So yes, Boris and corbyn are not great as individuals,  but as a party, Labour will drag us down the toilet.. again.

They also went against their 2017 manifesto of honouring the vote of the people. They have out right lied and have gone against what people voted for. I don't want a party like that in power.

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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2019, 18:03:09 »


So sad  :/

I know where they could save money instead of taking it from the NHS. Let's have a review of MP's expenses. The bastards are paid £80k a year, they then receive the same in expenses, and have a second house paid for whilst in office. Their pubs and restaurants are subsidised, and parking is free, yet we have to pay through the nose for the same luxuries in a hospital.

The thing that has hurt the NHS the most is the outsourcing of non clinical services to private firms that are only in it for the money, who hire anyone they can, that will accept shit working conditions and minimum wage to do a substandard job. It's no wonder MRSA is rife in hospitals.

Have you seen a hospital meal lately? Some £1 microwave meal that I wouldn't even feed to a dog, or a sandwich on the thinnest bread they can find, with next to no filling.

Nurses are overworked and underpaid, it's no wonder they all seem rude, they're probably all mentally drained.

And to top it all off, there are not enough hospitals in the country to deal with the amount of people that are now here. When was the last time you heard of a new hospital being built, without the shutting down of smaller hospitals?

This countries health system has become a joke. But it's ok, because the NHS can refer you to a private hospital for the same treatment, with shorter waiting times, better food, friendlier staff, free parking and pristine conditions. How much does it cost to send a patient to one of these services compared with doing it at a NHS hospital?

Our NHS was privatised some while ago, and it's only getting worse.


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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #41 on: November 11, 2019, 18:04:18 »
They also went against their 2017 manifesto of honouring the vote of the people. They have out right lied and have gone against what people voted for. I don't want a party like that in power.

Imagine a political party lying  :D


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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #42 on: November 11, 2019, 18:07:39 »

So yes, Boris and corbyn are not great as individuals,  but as a party, Labour will drag us down the toilet.. again.


Oh I agree, it goes back to my previous comment about labour getting us into shit and tories coming in and getting us out of it again. But I think it's been a very rough time under this tory rule, and it's time for the people to get something back, and the only way they will get that is with a labour Government. At the end of the day we are the ones who build this country, we are the ones that make this country great. So why can't we get a little back for it.


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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #43 on: November 11, 2019, 18:11:43 »
They also went against their 2017 manifesto of honouring the vote of the people. They have out right lied and have gone against what people voted for. I don't want a party like that in power.

Imagine a political party lying  :D

Lol I know  :-# but the Tories are the only one honouring the vote. If Labour were in power I would be very scared.

I've been watch question time recently, it's very interesting.



So yes, Boris and corbyn are not great as individuals,  but as a party, Labour will drag us down the toilet.. again.


Oh I agree, it goes back to my previous comment about labour getting us into shit and tories coming in and getting us out of it again. But I think it's been a very rough time under this tory rule, and it's time for the people to get something back, and the only way they will get that is with a labour Government. At the end of the day we are the ones who build this country, we are the ones that make this country great. So why can't we get a little back for it.

I agree. Tory get a hard time to be honest, they try and fix the country after Labour's mess. And I agree it would be nice for us to have something back, but where's this money coming from, it will be coming from our back pockets. It's all a huge illusion. It sounds too good to be true from Labour, and it is.

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Re: Winter Election
« Reply #44 on: November 11, 2019, 18:23:50 »

*This is sadly a true quote, you can find videos online of him saying this. Sad times

 

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