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Public Forum => World News => Topic started by: Cherrycrush on October 29, 2019, 23:02:33
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Looks like we are set for a general election this Christmas and maybe we can have a nice discussion on it. Who do we think will be the Pm? Who do we want to win?
Remember to keep it nice :)
It's Corbyn for me XD
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Labour for me also.
I am still to read what hes going to do about brexit?
I am worried he wont do enough
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Labour for me. \:D/
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I pick liberal democrats :D
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I'll be voting tactically :P
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I don't vote, they are all pricks 3:)
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I don't vote, they are all pricks 3:)
You must vote, its important, or at least spoil your vote to show you are unhappy
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Boris Boris Boris
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I don't vote, they are all pricks 3:)
You must vote, its important, or at least spoil your vote to show you are unhappy
I will once there is someone worth voting for ;)
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The future of our country depends on votes. We shouldn't waste our opportunity. #-o
I would normally vote labour, but not with that Plonka in charge of them.
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The future of our country depends on votes. We shouldn't waste our opportunity. #-o
I would normally vote labour, but not with that Plonka in charge of them.
Who will you vote for instead?
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Im really not too sure right now
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conservative for me....go Boris :)
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conservative for me....go Boris :)
Not entirely sure on your situation but if the Conservatives win we lose the Nhs, would this not affect you?
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Tories have been in power for about 9 years straight and the nhs is still here. We won't loose it, they have said time and time again it's not going to be sold. I think it's scare mongering :(
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I don't vote, they are all pricks 3:)
You must vote, its important, or at least spoil your vote to show you are unhappy
Tbf this has the same effect as not voting. It does nothing. It's all a farce anyway, whether you vote left wing or right wing, you're still voting for the same bird. None of them ever do anything positive for us regular working folk. Labour ease the burden of the less well off a little by borrowing heavily. Conservatives then come in and stick us in austerity measures in order to pay back the debt that labour built. And round and round it goes.
I will be voting, just unsure as to who I would vote for at this moment in time.
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Labour intend to nationalise the railway system.
Will that affect your job @ShaneGoesArd
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i Totally agree with what Amy has said and to be fair i dont have a lot of faith in any party but i wont waste my vote
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Labour for me also.
I am still to read what hes going to do about brexit?
I am worried he wont do enough
@Only Lilly
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@Amy @Dee
Trump has already said that he wants the NHS on the table as part of a trade deal with UK. Everyone's situation is different but for me personally a lot of my family have serious long term illnesses and they heavily rely on the NHS, they simply couldn't get treatment if the NHS is privatised. And even if they don't privatise it, the Conservative government has crippled it by under funding it the last 10 years or so. Looking at how bad the American healthcare system is, paying stupid prices like hundreds or a thousand pounds to get an ambulance is just terrifying.
The next few weeks will be interesting to say the least :P
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Tories have adamantly stated the NHS is off the table. Could you imagine the uproar if it wasn't? Although privatisation of the NHS has been ongoing for years now, I highly doubt our government is going to sell the NHS. I really hope they don't, if they did, they would never be in power again, it would be the end of them. The cuts I agree have been awful, all thanks to the Labour party which left this country in terrible debt and with no money. Liam Byrne's note of "there's no money left" made that fact legendary.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2010/may/17/liam-byrne-note-successor?fbclid=IwAR0T5LCPcByq-nDwHt1cIdbH99-Uf6cYftKd7J5g0nDS_5WPJ6PRug9Ch6U
But there was also a global economic crisis as well, which made matters worse.
I am really unsure on this election. The way I see it is,
Conservative want to follow through on the referendum we had 4 years ago. Delivering what people in a democratic society voted for.
Labour continues to block what people voted for (even though labour are all about 'what people want') and is now offering a 2nd referendum. Honestly, if people still vote leave, what a slap in the face for him that would be.
Lib dem want to cancel brexit all together, which is even more anti-democratic.
So basically, if people want to leave vote conservative, if you want to remain vote lib dem. Labour just want round 2 #-o
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Labour intend to nationalise the railway system.
Will that affect your job @ShaneGoesArd
It wouldn't affect my job as we're in railway maintenance, the nationalisation will be for the operators. But I don't see how they can do it, when a lot of the contracts are in place for the next 10 years.
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So basically, if people want to remain vote conservative, if you want to leave vote lib dem. Labour just want round 2 #-o
Do you mean this the other way around?
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So basically, if people want to remain vote conservative, if you want to leave vote lib dem. Labour just want round 2 #-o
Do you mean this the other way around?
Yes! haha, conservatives for leave, lib dem for remain and labour for round 2! XD
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I voted remain in the original referendum.
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I'm personally going to vote for Tories. I'd normally vote Labour but i don't trust Corby whatsoever.
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I'm personally going to vote for Tories. I'd normally vote Labour but i don't trust Corby whatsoever.
and you trust Boris?
vote for the policies not the man
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I'm personally going to vote for Tories. I'd normally vote Labour but i don't trust Corby whatsoever.
and you trust Boris?
vote for the policies not the man
Absolutely, Boris is extremely dodgy behind his quirky charisma. In his short stint as Prime Minister he has told numerous lies, the most infamous was when he was found to have lied to the queen. If he's prepared to lie to her, he'll lie to anyone.
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Deputy leader for Labour stepped down recently and Ian Austin an ex Labour MP tells reporters Corbyn is not fit to run the country. He gets quite emotional, here's the link https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1201213/general-election-ian-austin-jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-gordon-brown-boris-johnson
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Deputy leader for Labour stepped down recently and Ian Austin an ex Labour MP tells reporters Corbyn is not fit to run the country. He gets quite emotional, here's the link https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1201213/general-election-ian-austin-jeremy-corbyn-labour-party-gordon-brown-boris-johnson
I'm glad about that, slowly the old Labour who've tried to undermine Corbyn are being flushed out and better candidates who share Corbyns vision can replace them. He won't be missed in the long run, he was a weasel XD
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I'm just waiting for the oldddd generation to dwindle away in general.
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Not flushed out, but have left purposely. It's very sad to see how many have actually left because of the antisemitism row and Corbyns leadership. I think this is an eye opener. Their party is falling apart. #-o
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Not flushed out, but have left purposely. It's very sad to see how many have actually left because of the antisemitism row and Corbyns leadership. I think this is an eye opener. Their party is falling apart. #-o
You might have to open the picture in a seperate tab XD
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Good clip with John Bercow
https://twitter.com/Socialist_Chris/status/1192512875832729600
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I think that's a cherry pick of information. It's not that he's a racist, its the fact mps left because he hasn't bothered with resolving the issue in his own party, and felt uncomfortable. Hes a man with his own interests. He's a terrorist sympathasiser, who called Hamas and Hezbollah friends, and repeatedly refused to condemn ira bombing. He constantly blocks the vote of a democratic society, he has mps.. several mps that have left due to antisemitism.. that list goes on too.
I would vote for Labour, but not Corbyn. I don't think he will be a good leader [-(
I wonder what else is going to come out in the news in the next few days :3
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The last point shows that he has tried to combat it in his party, a lot of it in my opinion is a smear campaign by the big corporations who he plans to ensure they pay their taxes.
I don't think he is self interested, at least the lesser of the potential candidates for PM he is someone who's spent their entire life protesting for change and remained very consistent.
This is someone who has their own interests -
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Is she for real? XD
I think the problem with Corbyn isn't the smear campaign stuff the media wants us to believe, it's how he will fund all his ambitious policies, like removing University fees.
And Conservative Pm's have also quit Boris Johnsons party since he became PM, I don't know how the numbers compare to labour's but they've both suffered. Although In my opinion I'm happy with the people who've left Labour, it will make them better in the future thats for certain \:D/
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Although the removal of fees for universities would be fabulous, you're right, where's the money going to come from?
Haha that picture!
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Interesting thread! I don't follow up on UK politics, let alone U.S. politics #-o I'll definitely be following along now!
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So sad :/
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Nigel Farage announces the Brexit party will *not* running a full slate of candidates in #ge2019.
Farage standing down candidates from 317 Tory held seats - game changer for Boris Johnson.
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He's a terrorist sympathasiser, who called Hamas and Hezbollah friends, and repeatedly refused to condemn ira bombing.
The whole terrorist sympathiser is pure spin and part of the large smear campaign against the man. This is a man that is a peace monger. If he came out and condemned any of them, they will refuse to speak with him, and he could no longer try and influence peace. I've never seen a politician receive so much hate from the media, they are quite obviously scared of him.
And ok the labour party has an anti semitism issue, but the conservatives have an out and out racist at its helm, who referred to muslim women as letterboxes and black people as piccaninnies with watermelon smiles. This is why I will not vote for a conservative party that has Boris in charge. I still don't know where my vote will land, but I can't cross that box for the tories as I have for the past 2 elections.
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I agree neither of them are perfect. But as a party we stand a better chance with the Tories. On the radio the other day, the radio presenter explained that Labour want to spend 400 billion pounds on investment, and Peter dowd, in charge of labour treasury was asked, who's going to pay for this 400b pounds investment, he replied, well, the British people will pay for it.
So yes, Boris and corbyn are not great as individuals, but as a party, Labour will drag us down the toilet.. again.
They also went against their 2017 manifesto of honouring the vote of the people. They have out right lied and have gone against what people voted for. I don't want a party like that in power.
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So sad :/
I know where they could save money instead of taking it from the NHS. Let's have a review of MP's expenses. The bastards are paid £80k a year, they then receive the same in expenses, and have a second house paid for whilst in office. Their pubs and restaurants are subsidised, and parking is free, yet we have to pay through the nose for the same luxuries in a hospital.
The thing that has hurt the NHS the most is the outsourcing of non clinical services to private firms that are only in it for the money, who hire anyone they can, that will accept shit working conditions and minimum wage to do a substandard job. It's no wonder MRSA is rife in hospitals.
Have you seen a hospital meal lately? Some £1 microwave meal that I wouldn't even feed to a dog, or a sandwich on the thinnest bread they can find, with next to no filling.
Nurses are overworked and underpaid, it's no wonder they all seem rude, they're probably all mentally drained.
And to top it all off, there are not enough hospitals in the country to deal with the amount of people that are now here. When was the last time you heard of a new hospital being built, without the shutting down of smaller hospitals?
This countries health system has become a joke. But it's ok, because the NHS can refer you to a private hospital for the same treatment, with shorter waiting times, better food, friendlier staff, free parking and pristine conditions. How much does it cost to send a patient to one of these services compared with doing it at a NHS hospital?
Our NHS was privatised some while ago, and it's only getting worse.
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They also went against their 2017 manifesto of honouring the vote of the people. They have out right lied and have gone against what people voted for. I don't want a party like that in power.
Imagine a political party lying :D
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So yes, Boris and corbyn are not great as individuals, but as a party, Labour will drag us down the toilet.. again.
Oh I agree, it goes back to my previous comment about labour getting us into shit and tories coming in and getting us out of it again. But I think it's been a very rough time under this tory rule, and it's time for the people to get something back, and the only way they will get that is with a labour Government. At the end of the day we are the ones who build this country, we are the ones that make this country great. So why can't we get a little back for it.
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They also went against their 2017 manifesto of honouring the vote of the people. They have out right lied and have gone against what people voted for. I don't want a party like that in power.
Imagine a political party lying :D
Lol I know :-# but the Tories are the only one honouring the vote. If Labour were in power I would be very scared.
I've been watch question time recently, it's very interesting.
So yes, Boris and corbyn are not great as individuals, but as a party, Labour will drag us down the toilet.. again.
Oh I agree, it goes back to my previous comment about labour getting us into shit and tories coming in and getting us out of it again. But I think it's been a very rough time under this tory rule, and it's time for the people to get something back, and the only way they will get that is with a labour Government. At the end of the day we are the ones who build this country, we are the ones that make this country great. So why can't we get a little back for it.
I agree. Tory get a hard time to be honest, they try and fix the country after Labour's mess. And I agree it would be nice for us to have something back, but where's this money coming from, it will be coming from our back pockets. It's all a huge illusion. It sounds too good to be true from Labour, and it is.
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*This is sadly a true quote, you can find videos online of him saying this. Sad times
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I hate Nigel Farage with a passion.
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Isnrt it clever that Nigel and Boris will not stand against Labour and lib dems, plus the greens and snp.
Who ever gets in I guarentee this country is in a mess.
I will be looking at the policies regaurding animal rights, and right now the Tories have zero morals.
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Interesting turn of events last night -
The Lib Dem candidate in Canterbury @ThatTimWalker has told Channel 4 News he is stepping down and does not wish to challenge the Labour Remain supporting candidate @RosieDuffield1
However higher Lib Dems are insisting someone replaces him, every possible candidate has declined because it will help the Conservatives.
Deadline to select a new candidate is Thursday. There are four local Lib Dems who are approved candidates but not a single one is willing to stand. So the national party would have to impose a candidate on Canterbury from outside.
Seems a suicidal move from the Leadership of Lib Dems if they do replace him. #-o
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This election has so many twists and turns and it is still about Brexit, trouble is so many bad things will get passed while we focus on brexit :(
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Labour are offering free full fibre broadband in every home by 2030, I really like this policy. It's very forward thinking, especially considering how Internet is essential in most of our day to day lives.
It would be expensive but potentially could create a lot more jobs, allow people to work from home (cutting down on pollution).
Only 8-10% of UK premises have full fibre broadband. Compare that to 97% in Japan and 98% in South Korea.
The radical proposal would cost a one-off £20bn, funded by £5bn already committed by the Government and an extra £15.3bn from Labour’s £250bn Green Transformation Fund.
Annual running costs would be around £230 million a year, paid through a new tax on multinationals - including internet giants like Amazon, Facebook and Google .
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Jezza takes the win XD
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I have to agree.
Labour spoke from the heart I barely saw him look at his notes. He was respectful at all times.
Conservative he just read from notes. Made a lot of snide childish comments and didn’t shup up when asked.
As for the quality of replies Jeremy seemed to have more answers. I’m still unhappy about the amount of he plans on spending.
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I didn't like how they only had a short amount of time to answer, I would have liked to hear more from both of them.
I found it amusing how Jeremy wouldn't answer the question, if he would campaign against his own deal or not, several times - MP's must be trained in avoiding questions.
I was hoping to learn something new, but it was all just a repeat of what they have said in the News. It wasn't much of a debate, I think question time is better for that!
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Absolutely, the host ruined it.
I don't get the hate on putting his deal back to the public, I really do think it's the fairest way for the public to decide if we want the deal. I don't see it as him campaigning against his deal, just letting the people decide in my opinion :)
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I can't keep track of everything thats going on anymore lol
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Isnrt it clever that Nigel and Boris will not stand against Labour and lib dems, plus the greens and snp.
Who ever gets in I guarentee this country is in a mess.
I will be looking at the policies regaurding animal rights, and right now the Tories have zero morals.
From the Labour Manifesto
#AnimalWelfare
Labour will:
• Introduce an animal welfare commissioner
• Prohibit sale of snares & glue traps
• End the badger cull
• Boost police resources for wildlife crime
• Work to end commercial whaling
• Ban importation of hunting trophies
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That alone will make me vote Labour
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Stormzy today (25/11/19):
"I will be voting for Jeremy Corbyn....for me he is the first man in a position of power who is committed to giving back power to the people & helping those who need a helping hand......Boris Johnson is a sinister man with a long record of lying....."
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Labour are gaining more popularity.
Like or loath him JC is a great speaker and debates like a pro
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Plaid Cymru got my vote :)
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Student voting intention:
LAB 72%
Lib Dems 10%
Conservatives 8%
SNP 3%
Brexit Party 2%
Plaid Cymru 2%
Green 1%
Lets hope young people actually turn out to vote this election :D
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First time voting and I'll be going labour...
Also, for anyone who hasn't seen this yet - Stanley Johnson, father of Boris Johnson, says "that requires a degree of literacy which I think the great British public doesn't necessarily have" when he was told that Boris Johnson has been refered to as Pinochhio. Stanley then goes on to say that "they couldn't spell Pinochhio if they tried".
What a twat.
https://youtu.be/mGr3qbOPHoE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjUWX6S8iYU
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For people who are unsure/undecided who and what to vote for here is link with that could help you choose. It is a short quiz around 8-12 minutes and no party will be shown until the end of your quiz and might be able to help who you vote for :)
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk
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I got 50% green and 50% Brexit lol
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I've put some money on Corbyn becoming the next PM. I know it's unlikely but a sneaky gut feeling that the good in people will shine through XD
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjUWX6S8iYU
He is brilliant, I'd love to go to one of his shows
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Voting day! \:D/
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todays the day ! even though I ain't from the uk lol I predict a Boris majority unfortunately lol.
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todays the day ! even though I ain't from the uk lol I predict a Boris majority unfortunately lol.
Majority of Wales will vote Labour, Scotland for SNP and England Conservatives - My prediction.
REEEEEEE
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Just done my vote - Plaid Cymru :)
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@Cherrycrush he played in Leicester.
Voted xxx
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After all that I wasn't even allowed to vote! #-o My name had been removed from the list :/
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looking like a boris majority unfortunately lol.
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The UK is fucking fucked.
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-sigh-
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The constituency of Grenfell voted Tory after they blamed the firemen (who they cut numbers) and said that the people who burnt alive lacked common sense (jacob rees mogg).
Since then Corbyn has campaigned many times on behalf of the victims of Grenfell.
Not in a million years Corbyns fault, the people of England are absolute morons #-o #-o #-o
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You can move to Belgium if you're married to one of our citizens. I'm single by the way :D
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Man, I'm smooth
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You can move to Belgium if you're married to one of our citizens. I'm single by the way :D
DM me xoxoxo
Man, I'm smooth
I hope so. I like 'em smooth
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What a relief
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Plaid Cymru held in Gwynedd so its good for us here :)
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What a relief
Good to see you here Amy :)
‘The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the Axe, for the Axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood he was one of them.’
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XD
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he is gonna make such a mess in 5 years what a disaster atleast in a minority you had control over him lol.
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The UK is fucking fucked.
https://youtu.be/3r3muounC1o
So it begins...