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Offline Cool like Redtunnel

TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« on: June 14, 2016, 21:28:43 »
Watch the stream here

Update Planning Announcement
  • Shattered Worlds will be delayed (not cancelled).
  • Skilling Pets will replace the August time-slot.
  • This gives us more time to make other updates (including Shattered Worlds) better.

Skilling Pets
  • ETA: August
  • As you interact with a skill, there's a random chance you will receive that skill's pet.
  • It will just require animation and character work.
  • Skilling Pets placed 3rd on the 2017 Survey.

Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
"Stuff contained in these slides is very early draft and *is not final*. Stuff will most likely change as time goes on."

General Information
  • ETA: September
  • The goal is to make Mining/Smithing more enjoy-able and align it better with other skills.
  • Everything is subject to change but we will be very transparent with what's coming.
  • Planned to make mining/smithing the highest tier content better than lower tiers.
  • Xp Rates should remain the same at the same level.

Mining/Smithing Rework Slides

Existing Game-play
  • Content related but isn't mining will generally remain the same.
  • Rune high-alch value would probably drop since rune will become more common.
  • All existing mining outfits will work with the new system.
  • Drop-table re-adjustment is something that's being looked at separately.
  • Range/Mage content are not being touched.

Mining Rework Concept
The slides will cover most of the information, but I'll expand on some of it down-below.

General Information
  • Encourage more positive engagement with Mining.
  • Make it predominantly AFK.
  • Coal won't be as influential.
  • May make all ore stack-able. (Just an idea).

Ore Levels

Ore        New Level       
Iron        10       
Coal        20       
Mithril        30       
Adamant        40       
Runite        50       
Orikalk (Dragon) Ore        60       
Necrite (Barrows) ore        70       
Invictum Ore        80       
Aetherium Ore        90       



Core Mining Changes
  • Rocks will have Capacity.
  • Life-points for rocks that will reward the player when they reach 0-capacity.
  • Individual per-player to stray-away from competition.
  • Normal mining hits deal capacity-damage and grant xp.
  • Critical mining hits deal more capacity-damage, provide an ore, and grant more xp.
  • % chance is based on your level/pickaxe.

Pickaxes
  • Increased tier provides increased capacity-damage.
  • Rocks will have a hardness value, and pickaxes will have a penetration value.
  • Mining a higher hardness values than your penetration value results in less critical hits/xp per hour.
  • Pickaxe Styles (not available for launch)
  • Normal/Two-handed/Dual-Wielding Pickaxes.

Mining Shafts
  • Not planned but it's an idea.
  • Strawpoll
  • An area to provide risk vs reward for mining.
  • The deeper you go the higher quality the ore, but the more dangerous it becomes to survive.

Smithing Rework Concept
The slides will cover most of the information, but I'll expand on some of it down-below.

Item Tiers
  • Remove the grind and similar item reproduction.
  • Existing gear: Bronze - levels 1-9, Iron - levels 10-19, etc.
  • New gear: 70-79, 80-89, 90-99
  • New Items on release:
  • Full helm, Plate-body, plate-legs, shield, scimitar, (more if there's extra time).
  • It takes a large time to develop numerous items, especially at high-levels.

Standard Smithing
  • Xp drops will be increased.
  • Rate of smithing will be slowed down.
  • Bars will require more ores to create.
  • New tiers of bar will require secondary ingredients.

Masterwork Smithing
  • Affects new 70+ smithed items.
  • Take items from normal smithing and create these new unique bars.
  • Items made from these bars could have set-effects, perks, or other benefits.
  • Produced items could be augmentable.

Credit to /u/ImRubic for posting this on the /r/Runescape Reddit

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Offline Xandak Rune

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2016, 21:34:43 »
Much simpler to understand than what I posted xD Woot, the hype is real

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Offline Kniight Lost

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2016, 22:00:26 »
So much complexity....

At least I have until September to get 120 but now all prices are dropping because people are stupid and think that the update will happen tomorrow and people panic over anything....

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Offline Xandak Rune

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2016, 22:13:14 »
So much complexity....

At least I have until September to get 120 but now all prices are dropping because people are stupid and think that the update will happen tomorrow and people panic over anything....

Yeah watching people panic at Port Forges lmfao, I'm going for 120 by then too!

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Offline Cle

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Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2016, 22:42:19 »
Wow i'm sad that Mining and Smithing Rework isn't incorporating 120 skill sets :/ 

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Offline Xandak Rune

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2016, 22:48:21 »
Wow i'm sad that Mining and Smithing Rework isn't incorporating 120 skill sets :/

Good point, but I assume that'd require 120 in the various combats as Smithing is used to create armour and weapons

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Offline Cool like Redtunnel

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2016, 00:49:12 »
So much complexity....

At least I have until September to get 120 but now all prices are dropping because people are stupid and think that the update will happen tomorrow and people panic over anything....

Yeah watching people panic at Port Forges lmfao, I'm going for 120 by then too!

Good luck to the both of you on 120 Smithing, an amazing cape, but I'm too lazy to get it :P Share some tips?

Wow i'm sad that Mining and Smithing Rework isn't incorporating 120 skill sets :/ 
Same here! I really wanted it to be a comp requirement to annoy the compers haha, but I bet in the future, 120's will become a thing - They have to IMO to avoid dead content.

Lovely art of the armours

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Offline Xandak Rune

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2016, 03:14:19 »
So much complexity....

At least I have until September to get 120 but now all prices are dropping because people are stupid and think that the update will happen tomorrow and people panic over anything....

Yeah watching people panic at Port Forges lmfao, I'm going for 120 by then too!

Good luck to the both of you on 120 Smithing, an amazing cape, but I'm too lazy to get it :P Share some tips?

Wow i'm sad that Mining and Smithing Rework isn't incorporating 120 skill sets :/ 
Same here! I really wanted it to be a comp requirement to annoy the compers haha, but I bet in the future, 120's will become a thing - They have to IMO to avoid dead content.

Lovely art of the armours


Tips for doing Smithing: PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT! 99-120 can and most likely will net a total profit of over 1b if you do it right :P
Profitable items: Rune Platelegs/skirts, Rune 2Hs
Get the Wasteless Smithing scroll from Dungeoneering, work at a Portable Forge, and use Crystal Hammers, to make over 100 extra items per 1k of them, then, High Alch them for massive profit! I dunno how much profit exactly it is except that if you make the bars from the ores themselves, a very slow and painful process (1k bars an hour, at best) then you net 20m+ profit every 10k bars made, turning those into Rune 2Hs/legs then Alching them will be even more than that!


Holy fucking shit those armours o.o Unless they do something to Crafting to match Ranged and Magic, you think it'll go back to Meleescape for those with Smithing? Cause Daaaaaaayum

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Offline Charms

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Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2016, 08:47:44 »
Panic get 120 smithing while its profitable !

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Offline Kniight Lost

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2016, 11:00:43 »
So much complexity....

At least I have until September to get 120 but now all prices are dropping because people are stupid and think that the update will happen tomorrow and people panic over anything....

Yeah watching people panic at Port Forges lmfao, I'm going for 120 by then too!

Good luck to the both of you on 120 Smithing, an amazing cape, but I'm too lazy to get it :P Share some tips?


Tips:

After 99 make rune 2h/platelegs/skirts. Use forges, dg scroll and crystal hammer to profit. If you don't want to get your own portables use portables fc. There is nothing to it. Use yak and presets. Buy and sell everything on ge, just put an offer and let it buy/sell, might not be instant but they usually sell mid price. You usually use 3k bars/hour with yak.

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Offline Xandak Rune

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2016, 11:52:40 »
Speaking of profits, Runite is down to 9k and Coal is at 190, mass smith bars while it's MASSIVE profit! :D

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Offline Xandak Rune

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2016, 11:55:21 »
So much complexity....

At least I have until September to get 120 but now all prices are dropping because people are stupid and think that the update will happen tomorrow and people panic over anything....

Yeah watching people panic at Port Forges lmfao, I'm going for 120 by then too!

Good luck to the both of you on 120 Smithing, an amazing cape, but I'm too lazy to get it :P Share some tips?


Tips:

After 99 make rune 2h/platelegs/skirts. Use forges, dg scroll and crystal hammer to profit. If you don't want to get your own portables use portables fc. There is nothing to it. Use yak and presets. Buy and sell everything on ge, just put an offer and let it buy/sell, might not be instant but they usually sell mid price. You usually use 3k bars/hour with yak.

RIP Me, making 3k bars from ore is 3 hours, then after the hour of Smithing 2H's, another hour or more of High Alch-ing them all ;-; Takes like 5 hours just to make and alch 1k Rune 2Hs from ores, rip

Note: I make the bars from ore cause it boosts the profit up a shit ton

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Offline Kniight Lost

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2016, 13:58:25 »
So much complexity....

At least I have until September to get 120 but now all prices are dropping because people are stupid and think that the update will happen tomorrow and people panic over anything....

Yeah watching people panic at Port Forges lmfao, I'm going for 120 by then too!

Good luck to the both of you on 120 Smithing, an amazing cape, but I'm too lazy to get it :P Share some tips?


Tips:

After 99 make rune 2h/platelegs/skirts. Use forges, dg scroll and crystal hammer to profit. If you don't want to get your own portables use portables fc. There is nothing to it. Use yak and presets. Buy and sell everything on ge, just put an offer and let it buy/sell, might not be instant but they usually sell mid price. You usually use 3k bars/hour with yak.

RIP Me, making 3k bars from ore is 3 hours, then after the hour of Smithing 2H's, another hour or more of High Alch-ing them all ;-; Takes like 5 hours just to make and alch 1k Rune 2Hs from ores, rip

Note: I make the bars from ore cause it boosts the profit up a shit ton

The boost in profit is not really worth it. You have so many ways to make faster money. You need 3 hours to make the 3k bars needed for 1 hour of smithing than 1 hour to alch everything, really not worth it...

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Offline Xandak Rune

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2016, 14:09:20 »
*shrugs* It's a decent boost but yeah, takes a ton longer, guess I'm just skeptical about buying the bars outright lol

Edit: I'll try  buying bars outright when I finish this batch :p Would make plenty money either way I suppose, you use a BoB?

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Offline Kniight Lost

Re: TL;DW 196 - Q&A + Mining and Smithing Rework Concept
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2016, 14:34:11 »
*shrugs* It's a decent boost but yeah, takes a ton longer, guess I'm just skeptical about buying the bars outright lol

Edit: I'll try  buying bars outright when I finish this batch :p Would make plenty money either way I suppose, you use a BoB?

Yes I use bob (pack yak). Also don't buy all bars before-hand (unless you are super rich and don't mind having 1b+ on bars) just buy as you go. Usually things sell quickly at ge at mid price.

 

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