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TAPP Scrapped
« on: August 05, 2018, 10:12:05 »
The following quote is from Mod Stu
Unfortunately, TAPP has been cancelled until at least 2019, to eliminate distractions from bringing Old School and RuneScape to Mobile (our highest priority for 2018).

Since fortnightly TAPP days are no longer a thing, I wouldn't hold out much hope for TAPP months.

The good news is that some of us managed to finish the dev work for a RuneScape TAPP project or two before its cancellation, and so hopefully some might see the light of day if approved for QA and Localisation.

Some are also continuing to develop their TAPP projects after hours for no pay.

I'm happy to report that one of my TAPP/Gamejam projects is coming out on Monday. :)

I'm grateful that we've previously been allowed time to work on personal projects, and I feel RuneScape is much better for it.

(It particularly gave us a space to lower technical debt - I hope my rewrite of our quest backend systems gets released some day - and develop small or niche projects that it's hard to market as a week's game update but still make a difference.)

Some of the things I've released in the past thanks to TAPP/Gamejam include accept/overview screens and required item lists on all quests, more quest list sorts (including length and age) and suggested requirements, Arc and New Varrock exploration achievements, and reworks of Shield of Arrav, Jungle Potion, Heroes' Quest and Imp Catcher.

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Re: TAPP Scrapped
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2018, 10:16:43 »
Remember when Jagex promised that mobile wouldn't take away other projects? Absolutely disgraceful, another broken promise after broken promises.

Here are some of the updates TAPP brought:
  • Master quest cape
  • Boss pet overrides
  • Jewellery model rework
  • Augmentable dyed equipment
  • Nex: AoD
  • Fixes for the Arc
  • Prosper, Pyromaniac, Rapid, Breaddown and tinker for invention
  • Back to the Freezer
  • Shield of Arrav rework
  • Lumbridge crater fillup
  • Shattered Worlds
  • Skybox and filters
  • Solak
  • Skilling outfits outside of TH
  • Evil Dave's big day out
  • Clan avatar rework and CC improvements

This feels like the final nail in the coffin to me...Some poor choices made by Jagex this last year...

Lets remind ourselves of some updates we got that aren't TAPP.
  • Summer Weekends 2018 (Recycled Winter Weekends)
  • Runepass (MTX)
  • Boneyard (MTX)
  • Temple of Aminishi | Elite Dungeon
  • Mysteria (MTX)
  • In-game Calendar
  • Summer Pinatas (MTX)
  • Return of the Mimic Boss
  • Cavern of Tainted Memories (MTX)
  • Clue Scroll Overhaul | Lightning Weapons
  • Rainbows End (MTX)
  • Spring Fayre
  • Gemstacks (MTX)
  • The Equinox (MTX)
  • Double Dragon Chests (MTX)
  • Deep Sea Fishing
  • Safecracking
  • Smouldering Lamps (MTX)

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Re: TAPP Scrapped
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2018, 10:39:39 »
Wow

People are not going to like this



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Re: TAPP Scrapped
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2018, 11:02:58 »
I can only imagine the reddit rage
#GOLFWANGFOREVER

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Re: TAPP Scrapped
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2018, 11:43:48 »
This is disappointing ... especially when some of the best things come from TAPP

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Re: TAPP Scrapped
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2018, 11:56:57 »
This is such a shame! :(

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Re: TAPP Scrapped
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2018, 12:09:09 »
I can only imagine the reddit rage
Livid, lol! I can't blame them, 2018 has been a shit storm..

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Re: TAPP Scrapped
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2018, 14:14:48 »
I'm okay with this. Disappointed yes but I'm glad they're prioritising. Mobile has been a thorn in their side for over a year now with everyone working on it and us players having a lack of updates. Osbourne has said the mobile has slowed everything down like group ironman and bank rework so they're focusing their sights and knocking some of the most anticipated updates out sooner. And cancelling TAPP til 2019 won;t affect the game too much as most TAPP takes months and months to release, if someone is working on one now I doubt we'll see one til 2019 anyway. And by time then people may have fresh ideas of what TAPP they want to work on when they do have their TAPP day again. Knocking out mobile, group ironman, and bank rework is a plus then we can get back on schedule with packed updates every week.

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Re: TAPP Scrapped
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2018, 14:23:44 »
then we can get back on schedule with packed updates every week.

You're very optimistic, I like that. We shall see how this pans out - I don't expect RS mobile to come out this year anyway.

At this point, I've lost all faith in Jagex and I really don't want to invest more time into a game that I'm starting to despise how they go about doing their job. :'( RS isn't exactly dying, but the average number of players is slowly declining, I do hope that mobile will address this, but I think it's far too late.

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Re: TAPP Scrapped
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2018, 15:48:36 »
I understand every ones worries but Jagex have been in a worse situation than this. Removing wildy and the start of EoC for example, I do have faith just because the game is 15 years old for a reason and we have Jmods that really do care about the game.

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Re: TAPP Scrapped
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2018, 16:08:35 »
I've said for awhile since i mostly quit RS3 in late 2015 that Jagex was starting to go down the route  where there no clear direction of where they want to take the game and that they were heavily out of touch with their playerbase. I feared they would go down the direction most games from something like EA have been - Unfinished content or games released unfinished and broken with nonstop micro transactions being aggressively pushed and marketed towards players to the point it is putting off new prospective players from signing up to RS3 and would rather join OSRS where there actually a set focus on where they want to take the game and actually do listen to and engage with the community to offer the best content possible for all groups of players.

I think it is been obvious for awhile that the Runescape 3 team doesn't have the resources or money to invest into projects that some jagex mods want to work on and actually do care about the state of the game. I feel sorry for Mod Stu because when I read his post i can clearly get the sense he is more pissed off than he appears to be and for once I'm glad he made his post because I think its the most honest words to have come out from a Jagex mod who works for Runescape 3 team in quite some time  and it only confirms my fear that there is clearly a lack of moral.

The sad reality is Jagex is just a symptom of what is wrong with the gaming industry today and why more people than ever before and expressing their frustrations. For awhile Jagex have been getting away with deceiving their player base with empty vague promises they never fulfil whilst essentially trying to milk as much money out of people because instead of producing good content on time and people who justify these shitty consume practises and the shitty way they treat their customers with excuses like "but they need to prioritise *insert here*" or whatever excuse possible. Why are Jagex even promising content for a deadline that even the jagex mods know they cannot meet on time anyways if there is clear lack of resources and time? Then again, even that is a terrible excuse since there seems to be more jagex mods working on the MTX team than on game content itself from my observations. When people make excuses for companies to delay content in any way shape or form you are only enabling the problem to continue further. You should instead hold jagex to account and boycot the game like I did or move to OSRS as a form of protest about the way they treat RS3 and the players  and  send a clear signal to Jagex that enough is enough.

There so much I could vent about this issue because its been something which has annoyed me for years and its not just Jagex which  annoys me the most with this nonsense but most of the gaming development industry in general. There is a reason why Fortnite is so popular - its because Epic Games actually listen to community and listen to their playerbase for ideas to incorporate into the game and its new player friendly. Can you say the same about Runescape 3? No, not really.


 

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