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Dilemma | PvM related
« on: March 23, 2017, 20:08:55 »
Eyyo. So right now I have one goal in RS3 and that is to make money. I'm relatively broke compared to a lot of you out there and would love to change that since I'm maxed.

I have done a decent amount of bossing, however I would still consider myself a total scrub. I would like to learn Full Manual, but make money during that time.

The Dilemma:
I would like to become more proficient at Araxxor and learning Full Manual definitely will go with that. Should I sell off my Dual Ascensions in order to purchase a Noxious Scythe and camp Araxxor? I'm assuming this would be the better option since my kill times will go down tremendously and my Full Manual knowledge and skill will definitely improve.

Pros:
- Have Noxious Scythe purchased
- Improved bossing kill times at Araxxor and certain GWD2 bosses.
- Ability to learn melee rotations, therefore improving my sub-par skills at Full Manual
- Due to faster kills and increasing knowledge of PVM my bossing kill will go up, therefore increasing my potential for GP.

Cons:
- Selling Dual Ascensions
- Using up 100m of my 110m cash stack
- Won't have a viable T90 Range weapon at hand



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Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2017, 22:14:26 »
You can do raxi much faster now, also vindicta with scythe is perfect as well as twin furies, if you camp you can easily make the money back and get the asc back in no time, what enrage are you planning to kill raxi on? Or are you going to reset using pheromones?

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Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2017, 23:01:37 »
You can do raxi much faster now, also vindicta with scythe is perfect as well as twin furies, if you camp you can easily make the money back and get the asc back in no time, what enrage are you planning to kill raxi on? Or are you going to reset using pheromones?

Thanks Matt! Yeah I figured that making the money back won't be a big deal since my kills will be tremendously more efficient. I definitely will try doing Solo/Duo Twin Furies and Vindicta! Erm I'm not positive what my highest enrage has been, but probably not that much. Currently I'm at 60% enraged. If I see myself getting into the rhythm or Araxxor more I will start using pheromones, etc. I'll probably camp until I get to this stage.

Also, @Only Matt do you usually start instances when killing Araxxor?


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Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2017, 23:06:37 »
You can do raxi much faster now, also vindicta with scythe is perfect as well as twin furies, if you camp you can easily make the money back and get the asc back in no time, what enrage are you planning to kill raxi on? Or are you going to reset using pheromones?

Thanks Matt! Yeah I figured that making the money back won't be a big deal since my kills will be tremendously more efficient. I definitely will try doing Solo/Duo Twin Furies and Vindicta! Erm I'm not positive what my highest enrage has been, but probably not that much. Currently I'm at 60% enraged. If I see myself getting into the rhythm or Araxxor more I will start using pheromones, etc. I'll probably camp until I get to this stage.

Also, @Only Matt do you usually start instances when killing Araxxor?

Yes you have to or he will not be weak to your attack style, but yeah meleeING will help you a lot with all the things you want to learn and dw about the money yet,  vin is easy with scythe as are furies, just try and get your enrage up abit more each time and get them leg peice and hilts

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Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2017, 23:09:53 »
Also make a preset for quicker kills :p
No messing around banking then

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Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2017, 23:11:14 »
Good luck,  plenty of guides on YouTube too if you're struggling, it will take a while to get used to where to stand and what distance, just persevere and be patient
Goodnight :)

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Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2017, 04:32:31 »
Good luck,  plenty of guides on YouTube too if you're struggling, it will take a while to get used to where to stand and what distance, just persevere and be patient
Goodnight :)
Awesome thank you! I did 4 kills tonight and saw a huge difference in kills. The times weren't great since I keep messing up in sections with Full Manual, however once I get it down I'm sure I can swing sub 4 minute kills easily. I will also be trying Vindicta and Twins tomorrow! So excited!


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Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2017, 08:15:48 »
Good luck,  plenty of guides on YouTube too if you're struggling, it will take a while to get used to where to stand and what distance, just persevere and be patient
Goodnight :)
Awesome thank you! I did 4 kills tonight and saw a huge difference in kills. The times weren't great since I keep messing up in sections with Full Manual, however once I get it down I'm sure I can swing sub 4 minute kills easily. I will also be trying Vindicta and Twins tomorrow! So excited!

Woooo niceee I don't even use manual tbh, im lazy though but I do click them I just like that if I miss then revo will make it go off ahaa, also remember the paths and stuff which are open, the quickest you'll get is 2/3 doing middle but yeah congratulations and keep it up, remember furies isn't the best cash as it's rare drop is only 10m or so but vins both rare drops is over 20 I think :)
Coming back to raxi, when do you zerk?

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Offline Karli

Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2017, 08:57:15 »
U can use araxyte phermone to get right spawns in non instance also dragon rider is almost good as lance might be worth testing that first altho ive got no idea does it works like scyhte

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Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2017, 09:39:48 »
I don't understand why you would need a Scythe to camp arraxor, to me, Scythe at Araxxor is an elitist item. But honestly, why do you need a Scythe? I have a pretty decent kill time (Lets say an average of 6 minutes) when killing Araxxor/Araxxi.

As for improved GWD2 timers, that isn't all that true if you can't time your abilities right. When I used to solo Twin Furies, I would always use magic, I'm not saying it's better, but I found it more fun and not as 'click intensive' as a Scythe. If you want fast Scythe kills, you're going to need precision and accuracy on your abilities.

Also, to speed up your araxxi kills, use a bank preset, but remember to turn off your scrimshaw firstly if you're using one and to fill up on your yak!

Summary; Scythe is an overrated, overpriced elitist item. Find which weapon you enjoy using the most and use that.

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Offline Only Matt

Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2017, 11:09:26 »
I don't understand why you would need a Scythe to camp arraxor, to me, Scythe at Araxxor is an elitist item. But honestly, why do you need a Scythe? I have a pretty decent kill time (Lets say an average of 6 minutes) when killing Araxxor/Araxxi.

As for improved GWD2 timers, that isn't all that true if you can't time your abilities right. When I used to solo Twin Furies, I would always use magic, I'm not saying it's better, but I found it more fun and not as 'click intensive' as a Scythe. If you want fast Scythe kills, you're going to need precision and accuracy on your abilities.

Also, to speed up your araxxi kills, use a bank preset, but remember to turn off your scrimshaw firstly if you're using one and to fill up on your yak!

Summary; Scythe is an overrated, overpriced elitist item. Find which weapon you enjoy using the most and use that.

All what you've said is true, use what you're comfortable with its not essential to use scythe at rax but it is the fastest kills once you know the abilities, faster kills = more money but Damien is right it's more click intensive and accurate clicking :)

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Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2017, 14:10:03 »
I don't understand why you would need a Scythe to camp arraxor, to me, Scythe at Araxxor is an elitist item. But honestly, why do you need a Scythe? I have a pretty decent kill time (Lets say an average of 6 minutes) when killing Araxxor/Araxxi.

As for improved GWD2 timers, that isn't all that true if you can't time your abilities right. When I used to solo Twin Furies, I would always use magic, I'm not saying it's better, but I found it more fun and not as 'click intensive' as a Scythe. If you want fast Scythe kills, you're going to need precision and accuracy on your abilities.

Also, to speed up your araxxi kills, use a bank preset, but remember to turn off your scrimshaw firstly if you're using one and to fill up on your yak!

Summary; Scythe is an overrated, overpriced elitist item. Find which weapon you enjoy using the most and use that.
Yeah I mean I can see where you're coming from definitely. Right now I'm struggling to get down the times since my accuracy isn't there yet, however I do notice huge improvements in speed. I know it's an overpriced item, however I think learning the mechanics of it will get me to a better stage of Full Manual and PvM in general. I can already feel a difference in my abilities in PvMing with Full Manual. Also, I eventually wanted to get the Scythe, so why not now. I am already up to 18m profit since yesterday, so I can see myself rebuilding for the Nox Staff and Ascensions in no time.


I don't understand why you would need a Scythe to camp arraxor, to me, Scythe at Araxxor is an elitist item. But honestly, why do you need a Scythe? I have a pretty decent kill time (Lets say an average of 6 minutes) when killing Araxxor/Araxxi.

As for improved GWD2 timers, that isn't all that true if you can't time your abilities right. When I used to solo Twin Furies, I would always use magic, I'm not saying it's better, but I found it more fun and not as 'click intensive' as a Scythe. If you want fast Scythe kills, you're going to need precision and accuracy on your abilities.

Also, to speed up your araxxi kills, use a bank preset, but remember to turn off your scrimshaw firstly if you're using one and to fill up on your yak!

Summary; Scythe is an overrated, overpriced elitist item. Find which weapon you enjoy using the most and use that.

All what you've said is true, use what you're comfortable with its not essential to use scythe at rax but it is the fastest kills once you know the abilities, faster kills = more money but Damien is right it's more click intensive and accurate clicking :)
I completely agree that it's definitely not necessary. I was getting consistent 6-8 minute kills with Dual Ascensions, however I really want to get to the next level.


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Offline Only Matt

Re: Dilemma | PvM related
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2017, 14:32:46 »
Yeah that's brilliant, I've had scythe for ages and it is overpriced for what it is when the Lance is so much cheaper but the scythe owns so yeah! Good luck man :) keep it up, full manual is hard man lol so learning that and scythe combined is a big step :p

 

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