Holaaaaaa Amigo's #1 I know all their methods and shall tell you once compo is over

Will tell you that Runecrafting was done with ~15 mins of tectonic bodies by each member. Only one EE can win is one they can buy.

Pity you would t help this clan when you was in it.

Pity you would t help this clan when you was in it.

I actually did tell cc best methods to do Wc/Rc etc but no one listened to me, and if anyone asked me to assist them in getting better XP I would have.

+ It's not bragging or anything because I say "#1" about literally everything it means nothing at all.

How much does the tectonic method cost and what's the xp/h? Do the other top gaining clans use the same methods?

Lots of unrest about the clan cup of the clan leaders forums, here are a couple of quotes.

Lets hope things are sorted for next year

I totally understand how you feel. We're still trying with the clan cup, but it is extremely unmotivating and all my clan mates feel like those who are winning are "cheating" by using this pausing.

Jagex has also not been very clear with a lot of their rules, and when they addressed the lobbying issue it seemed like more people just abused it.

I think some of the methods being used for the clan cup is ridiculous and not sure why it's being allowed.. I know it's a one man show with Matthe running the clan cup but I think it should have more Jmods to help with the workload.

I did feel like there's no point taking part in the cup each week after seeing the ridiculous amount of XP the top clans are getting, which is no surprise if they're lobbying and then using divine locations each day? at least that's what I heard for the woodcutting cup.

My clan has done what you're doing Tigergal, doing the honest methods, such as lrc, or citadel with a few divine locations for an extra 20k xp or so and staying logged in-game for the hour. It's a shame other clans are not so honest.

 
Now another method has been disclosed that gives 40+ K one off hit to start the skilling session off - how do you get the materials for this - while you must have completed one of the Grandmaster Quests - yes an advanced player with good fighting skills.
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Now a resource collected PRE the SKILL RUN after a very high level quest gives a massive advantage, atm I am sitting here in despair considering whether to just ban that method for my clan (as we did with geysers, keeping to the moral high ground), throw in the towel or pretend I know nothing.


Jagex clearly stated that the Elder Chronicles (why even try to hide it) were bug abuse. They should have reacted in a similar manner with the lava geysers, and it is a tremendous source of frustration that they STILL haven't, but maybe next year (wherein my clan will not be participating) they will do better. The skilling thread still has the "Lava Flow Mines" on the "does not count" list.... :S

At the moment I feel like a law-abiding citizen with guns taken away - the criminals will still use the guns, but I can't do anything but bring a knife to a gun fight. I don't have faith that Jagex will actually enforce their new position, but with a statement condemning it that clear, my clan cannot use that method.

I agree, it should be level a playing field for everyone, a straight 1 hour with no gaps and no boosts allowed. If you log the clock continues and tough! It's then it's down to the pure skill of the players to tweak their hour and get the marginal gains to make them top rather than the pure financial power of the noobs who think that they don't have to work hard for anything.

How much does the tectonic method cost and what's the xp/h? Do the other top gaining clans use the same methods?

Only EE did tectonics as far as I know and it's 3m xp/hr

Hola Amigo's never used them and came #2 so I assume other didn't either.

Most of those quotes Lilly are from people who believe xp gains such as that are impossible without "Cheating" which isn't true at all they are just thinking what they did is the best method and what they did is unbeatable.

For example woodcutting was 283k/hr and as a level 3 with 1820 total I get around 72-75k xp a day off divine yew locations if the clan used the "pause" method which many people keep bringing up because of the post made by one of the Jmods running the cup they assume it was done for every week of every skill (when this type of xp gaining was discounted), if that was true and I was doing it on my level 3 account I could have easily got 450-500k/hr in the skill session using this method, mains would have gotten much higher.

If someone takes advantage of an oversight, such as the pause method with divine locations, the session should be disqualified. I personally think it's obvious that they didn't intend for it to be used that way, but I could be wrong. It ruins the integrity of the cup in my opinion. Right now it's a race between the most knowledgeable players who are also willing to abuse the game mechanics. While I appreciate that knowledge plays a large part, I wish it was under different circumstances (compare to pking, where you need knowledge combined with skill to defeat opponents rather than pure knowledge about a particular game mechanic). While I'm aware that I would never win either way, I'd still like to see how I fared against others, but right now there really aren't any grounds for comparison. I cannot even see a point in doing this week's sessions, but I will for the clan. However, I'm never going to join an event like this again. I don't blame people for using these methods. If you want to win, it's stupid not to take advantage considering other clans will, and they won't be disqualified for doing so. The fault lies with Jagex for carelessness and not making it clear that you cannot under any circumstances take advantage of any oversights.

If someone takes advantage of an oversight, such as the pause method with divine locations, the session should be disqualified. I personally think it's obvious that they didn't intend for it to be used that way, but I could be wrong. It ruins the integrity of the cup in my opinion. Right now it's a race between the most knowledgeable players who are also willing to abuse the game mechanics. While I appreciate that knowledge plays a large part, I wish it was under different circumstances (compare to pking, where you need knowledge combined with skill to defeat opponents rather than pure knowledge about a particular game mechanic). While I'm aware that I would never win either way, I'd like to see how I fared against others, but right now there really aren't any grounds for comparison. I cannot even see a point in doing this week's sessions, but I will for the clan. However, I'm never going to join an event like this again. I don't blame people for using this methods if they know about them. If you want to win, it's stupid not to take advantage considering other clans will, and they won't be disqualified for doing so. The fault lies with Jagex for carelessness and not making it clear that you cannot under any circumstances take advantage of any oversights.

Jagex never removed the use of tectonic's from Runecrafting as they said that they weren't the best xp rates and was something better. Which I'd love to know what is better than 3m Rc xp/hr

Most of those quotes Lilly are from people who believe xp gains such as that are impossible without "Cheating" which isn't true at all they are just thinking what they did is the best method and what they did is unbeatable.

These quotes are from the clan leaders forums and are all extremely knowledgeable players, I am sure they understand the game.  These were just a selection of unhappy clan leaders.

A few have dropped out of the clan cup as will we.

Quote from: Stee on October 09, 2014, 12:30:45

Most of those quotes Lilly are from people who believe xp gains such as that are impossible without "Cheating" which isn't true at all they are just thinking what they did is the best method and what they did is unbeatable.

These quotes are from the clan leaders forums and are all extremely knowledgeable players, I am sure they understand the game.  These were just a selection of unhappy clan leaders.

A few have dropped out of the clan cup as will we.

They dropped out because they never stood a chance and rq because they believe clans who are always in top 5 are "cheating"

Ok Stee

Ok Stee

So you believe all of the xp gains up there are all cheated? Lmao

I belive those xps were not achieved in the spirit of the clan cup.