Why do we still tolerate this? (Comes with a warning)

Only Lilly · « **on:** October 04, 2012, 09:11:03 »

Vietnam Festival: Live Pig Chopped In Half To Honor Village Deity

Each year, on the sixth day of the lunar new year, the villagers of a town about 25 miles north of Vietnam's capital, Hanoi, organize a festival to honor their local guardian deity, Doan Thuong. The celebrations include traditional festival features such as a march and live music, but one part of the ceremony is not for the faint of heart.

According to Reuters, a live pig is shuttled around the village before being placed on the ground on its back. Assistants hold ropes attached to the pig's legs, spreading the animal's appendages apart to expose its belly. A man wielding a large blade then chops the pig in half, and the villagers rush to smear the blood on bank notes, hoping for good luck in the new year.

The practice has been condemned by activists inside Vietnam and abroad.

Emma · « **Reply #1 on:** October 04, 2012, 09:13:30 »

no, it shouldn't be happening. I suppose the animal cruelty law there isn't as tight as it is here so all people can do is campaign.

I'm no vegetarian but that's a hell of a bad way to kill a pig.

Bendr · « **Reply #2 on:** October 04, 2012, 09:15:42 »

Ouch that shouldn't be happening ...
I have a Vietnamese background but that's just cruel.

davedays · « **Reply #3 on:** October 04, 2012, 09:36:27 »

That is inhumane and just not right, chopping up a (cute) pig that's alive is just barbarian.

Tom · « **Reply #4 on:** October 04, 2012, 11:02:45 »

We have our own traditions, perhaps not as extreme as this but we still have them. It's just a pig, and it was most likely bred for this.

-Tom.

Thunderite · « **Reply #5 on:** October 04, 2012, 11:14:52 »

Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2012, 11:02:45

We have our own traditions, perhaps not as extreme as this but we still have them. It's just a pig, and it was most likely bred for this.

-Tom.

Would it still be the same if it they were chopping a human in half? "It's just a human, still another 7 billion of them".

P · « **Reply #6 on:** October 04, 2012, 11:43:13 »

Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2012, 11:02:45

We have our own traditions, perhaps not as extreme as this but we still have them. It's just a pig, and it was most likely bred for this.

-Tom.

This. Just like i use to breed Pheasants and Partridge to shoot for sport, they are bred for this and its their tradition, we can't change this. I think it's fine.

Only Lilly · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2012, 12:41:27 »

Quote from: Jack on October 04, 2012, 11:43:13

Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2012, 11:02:45
We have our own traditions, perhaps not as extreme as this but we still have them. It's just a pig, and it was most likely bred for this.

-Tom.
This. Just like i use to breed Pheasants and Partridge to shoot for sport, they are bred for this and its their tradition, we can't change this. I think it's fine.

Just a pig? It is a living creature still, what gives humans the right to kill things for fun just because we are a little higher in the food chain.

No other living creature breeds and kills things purely for fun. And we are supposed to be intelligent?

Minz · « **Reply #8 on:** October 04, 2012, 13:34:58 »

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No other living creature breeds and kills things purely for fun. And we are supposed to be intelligent?

Ants breed aphids and allow caterpillars to eat them so they can feed on fat catterpillars

Only Lilly · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2012, 13:36:26 »

Quote from: Minz on October 04, 2012, 13:34:58

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No other living creature breeds and kills things purely for fun. And we are supposed to be intelligent?

Ants breed aphids and allow caterpillars to eat them so they can feed on fat catterpillars

Really?

Rune · « **Reply #10 on:** October 04, 2012, 13:55:52 »

All I can say is I'm ashamed of being human sometimes.

Tom · « **Reply #11 on:** October 04, 2012, 14:51:17 »

Quote from: Pluto on October 04, 2012, 11:14:52

Quote from: Tom on October 04, 2012, 11:02:45
We have our own traditions, perhaps not as extreme as this but we still have them. It's just a pig, and it was most likely bred for this.

-Tom.

Would it still be the same if it they were chopping a human in half? "It's just a human, still another 7 billion of them".

I never said it was a good thing. As I mentioned, It was most likely bred for this. I don't want to come across uncaring, but I don't really mind this kind of stuff, after you've been shooting animals and things, you tend not to be fussed.

-Tom.

Winter · « **Reply #12 on:** October 04, 2012, 16:40:05 »

Animal cruelty always fills me with hatred for humanity.

It's sickening. That poor pig.

:heart:

In picture 2 you can see it screaming in agony for fucks sake. I refuse to stare at that picture otherwise I'm going to cry my eyes out.

Aaron · « **Reply #13 on:** October 04, 2012, 16:50:49 »

I personally don't agree with this, but what you have to remember is that Animals do not compare to us humans, quite simply.

Although animals get a lot of sympathy from us we need to remember that they're basically just food. The only reason we feel like this towards them is because of the way we see them, they're cute, defenseless.. Just like the way we see babies. If someone was to harm a baby it would be 100x worse than doing the same harm to an adult, same as on an animal.

I'm still drunk I think so I don't even know if this made sense.

Tl;dr, I don't agree with it, but it isn't that bad.

Rune · « **Reply #14 on:** October 04, 2012, 17:04:27 »

Torture like this shouldn't be acceptable, neither for humans or animals.
Instant death for animals, not like in the picture..

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