Are girls sexual objects, that's what we are going to discuss because I find this one of the most disturbing 'problems' of this century. Before we go into the discussion we first need to look at what Sexual objectification, as it's called,  actualy means. The meaning of Sexual objectification is: 'The act of treating a person merely as an instrument of sexual pleasure.' What means treating someone as a sex object.
Yes I know you can also put the title the other way around asking are boys sex objects, but the statisticks don't lie and show that girls are far more considered sex objects than boys.
With music videos getting more and more about sexy girls in as little clothing as possible instead of actualy having good music (mostly modern pop and rap music). And with social media and even video games making this even worse. Why video games ? Well in most games (RPG's mostly) the females look like whores who compared to their male counterparts wearing the same armour but mosly just covering the private parts. This fact alone makes that atleast 40% of all female characters on big games like World of Warcraft, Elderscrolls Online and Guild Wars 2 are males. And with the september month having the biggest nude pictures of celeberties hack (or as most know it as The fappening 1 and The fappening 2) doesn't really help the case. On runescape this isn't really the case cause the female character models on runescape aren't really that great.
A year ago or so I watched a documentary about how the 2 genders see eachother and some of the statisticks they showed were just scary (No I dont know the name of the documentary) I bring this in cause this was based on the people of England. With around 90% of the boys between age 13-18 seeying girls as nothing more than sex objects and this is disturbing. No suprise that this lead to a rise in sexual abuse (or rape as it's simply called) in the west of europe and the USA.
Here in the netherlands we don't wear special school uniforms but since a year or 2 some schools have set rules for clothing. I remember when I was in midschool as we call it, it wasn't that bad you would have girls wear short clothing during summer and warm days but only sometimes a girl with 'slutty' clothing would be seen. Now 4 years after I went from midschool that has changed dramaticly.

So, how do we reduce this 90% and how do we teach the children of these days how to treat eachother ? That is what this week's discussion is about..

Week 1: http://consentus.co.uk/debates/weekly-discussions-this-isn't-going-to-be-for-the-softies-(week-1)
Week 3: http://consentus.co.uk/debates/weekly-discussions-league-of-fucking-rage-(week-3)

While it is offensive, I think it serves as an illustration on how misogynistic men rationalize their views, and herein lies the solution. We need to break free from cemented gender norms and teach boys at an early age that women, and girls for that matter, can be idolized for more than their beauty.

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While it is offensive, I think it serves as an illustration on how misogynistic men rationalize their views, and herein lies the solution. We need to break free from cemented gender norms and teach boys at an early age that women, and girls for that matter, can be idolized for more than their beauty.

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We are all from the same beginnings. Everyone is human and everyone should be treated the same. Humans are the most incredible creatures on earth but we judge so much off of gender, skin color, sexuality, etc and not off character or anything.
The media doesn't really help this kind of stuff which is unfortunate. But sadly people are shallow

I agree, that we should start learning boys that girls are more than just good looks.

It is the trend of many girls dressing as whores at an early age is why, in my opinion, are viewed as sex objects by similar aged lads. I drove past my old highschools and I swear, I had to keep my eyes at head level as they were going around in leggings or mini skirts.

The minds of the current generation are exploited at a young age.

South Park Bebe's Boobs destroy society.

Oh, I also blame porn and alcohol.

I don't see women like that at all really, of course with the lads you all have the 'she's nice' conversation but I don't see it solely as that.. What worries me is younger girls dressing 'slutty' or older then they should be. In my opinion it only encourges pedophelia and kidnapping and such.

I think that some women need to respect themselves as well.  Too many women use their sexuality to get their own way and trap men.

In my opinion if a woman wants to take her clothes off, sleep with a man or perform some sex act for vast amounts of money then why not?  If that's how they choose to earn a living then so be it.  As long it is their choice and not another persons.  I am sure that some of these women earn more in a week than I do in a year. 

I agree with your point lilly, since prostitution is legal in alot of countries it's not that big of a problem but not every girl that dresses 'sexy' is a prostitute and wants to sleep with someone and thats one of the major issues.

Men are sexual beings by nature and films, music videos and games just encourage that. Sexual objectification of woman is subjected everywhere we look, sex sells unfortunately and if anything we, as a society are just brainwashed into thinking 'this is how woman are and should be'. It's such a shame in my opinion that this is portrayed so much. There is a dear amount more to life than sex. The world is a deep place  to be explored, history to be made, and if others wish to fall into the trap of this shallow brainwashing than I feel sorry for them.

 

Thing is we all have sexual desires and drives, there is no way someone can deny it and if you do you can fuck yourself.  Knowing this, and that society evolved with men being the dominant sex until recently, it is more socially acceptable for a man to have sexual motivations and desires than a female, in my opinion.  Until recently, women did not have the same rights as men and were more conservative and now with more rights and protection they express themselves more and it is now seen a lot more in public.  I do feel that there is a norm that girls are sex objects, and I believe the onus falls on females.  When females dress the way they do, act the way they do, talk the way they do it allows men to sexually objectify women.  I agree with Lilly (for once), that the responsibility needs to come from females and in doing so I think men will stop sexually objectifying them.

Saw this earlier and think it may be relevant. Will not post the pictures b/c apparently one of them is a minor and child pornography.

My friend sent me 3 pictures, one was of a girl and a guy hugging, normal.  On some drake type of shit, it went 0 to 100 real fucking quick.  Next picture, same girl and same guy plus some friends.  Normal right, no.  She was performing fellatio on this gentleman and the friends were all watching and someone snapped a pic #letmetakeablowjobpic.  3rd pic, cant get worse right? Nay, Nay.  Instagram pic of said girl with male bodily fluids in her oral cavity (guess she doesnt swallow heh), and caption saying "its milk guys, i promise"  SMFH.  So out of curiousity i google her name and come upon her Twitter.  Expecting to find tweets like, "my life is over" "omg cant believe i did it", i see tweets saying how she is a legend and all around praise.  If this doesn't contribute to the views of women as sex objects i dont know what does.

Twitter link cus shes a whore https://twitter.com/AllyLyons1

oh yh forgot she got suspended from school

So this is a problem that has to do with both genders en reading andrew's post and memories of something happened on midschool about a girl that posted a video of her touching herself it seems that this behaviour starts sooner and sooners so how do you fix this problem, or is this a problem that cant be fixed ?

Ya I saw those a few days ago Andrew.

It's hard to respect someone when they don't even respect themselves. It's all for attention which is even worse

I think that some women need to respect themselves as well.  Too many women use their sexuality to get their own way and trap men.

Yep, I dont know if it happens to other men in this clan  but personally to me girls try to use me as a means of money . Even going as far as even lieing to string me along and thats a funny thing cause  they make it obvious that they lied. So you like me but you dont want to be in a relationship because it to soon to jump back into one but yet you  will flirt with a guy right in front of me .Preety slutty imo.

Your partner should be your not just be your husband or wife it should be your best friend aswell. He or  she should be around no matter what even if things are going bad. When you fail they fail when you succeed they succeed