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With the nominees set and the conventions now underway, I think it's time for this thread to be introduced. This thread will be dedicated to the discussion of the presidential election going on in the United States. This includes but is not limited to sharing ideas, discussion, debates, questions, etc. and is not limited to discussion of only the candidates but politics as a whole.

Below are the candidates including the typical views of "major" political topics in line with their party as well as views expressed specifically by the candidate.



     REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT



 
Donald J. Trump          Vice Presidential Running Mate - Mike Pence     

Donald is a wealthy business man, real estate developer, television personality, and CEO and President of Trump Organization. He is typically seen as the mouthy, politically incorrect, political outsider candidate.

-Pro-Life.
-Believes marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman. (Trump has vowed to protect LGBTQ rights while the majority of the party, including his VP pick, is against them)
-Believes climate change is a hoax.
-Wants to "build a wall" along the U.S.-Mexico border and "will make Mexico pay for it."
-Wants to implement a temporary ban on immigration of Muslims.
-Wants to implement a Muslim registry.
-Believes in expansion of military.
-Believes in limited forms of gun control.
-Believes in torture & capital punishment.
-Leave minimum wage the same.


     DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT



Hillary R. Clinton          Vice Presidential Running Mate - Tim Kaine     

Hillary is a former lawyer, First Lady, U.S. Senator, U.S. Secretary of State to the Obama Administration, and first woman presidential candidate of a main party. She is commonly seen as the "typical", mainstream, political candidate with years of political experience and Washington relations.

-Pro-Choice.
-Believes in marriage equality and strong supporter of LGBTQ rights.
-Believes climate change is real and a threat and that the U.S. must take action against it.
-Believes in defense spending budget cuts.
-Believes in stronger forms of gun control and closing loopholes.
-Is against capital punishment.
-Believes in a higher minimum wage ($15).
-Against the war on drugs.
-Believes in immigration reform for "pathway to full and equal citizenship."

These are just some of the positions that these parties/candidates hold. While Trump and Clinton are the two main candidates, there is a 3rd party candidate gaining popularity running as well with him being the only 3rd party candidate appearing on the ballot in all 50 states.

     LIBERTARIAN NOMINEE FOR PRESIDENT

Gary E. Johnson          Vice Presidential Running Mate - Bill Weld     


Gary is a construction business owner as well as the former Governor of New Mexico. He was the 2012 Libertarian candidate for president and, although getting 0% of the votes in 2012, has gained a lot of traction with the Republican and Democratic candidates being the most unfavorable candidates in modern political history. If reaching 15% in national polls, Gary Johnson will be able to take part in the debates among the candidates and many believe that after achieving this line of exposure, the possibility of a 3rd party candidate gaining traction and support has great probability.

-The gist of the Libertarian party's beliefs are that they are fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
-Pro-Choice.
-Advocate for LGBTQ rights.
-Limited forms of gun control.
-Against the war on drugs.
-For the legalization of marijuana.
-Against the death penalty.



Who do you support, whether American or not? Who do you disagree with? Would any receive your vote? Does a 3rd party candidate have a legitimate chance in this election cycle? This thread is to highlight your points of view, opinions, passions, and likes/dislikes. With the Republican National Convention just coming to a close, did anyone watch it? Favorite or least favorite parts? Please share.

NOTE: When debating, please attack ideas, not people. Keep this thread as civil as possible. Passion and strong opinions are not frowned upon, please just keep this thread a thread of discussion of policies, ideologies, and ideas and not ad hominem fallacies.

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2016, 09:24:08 »
Hillary Clinton:
  • A lying criminal
  • Should be put in Prison
  • How is she even able to run for President? She's in so much shit!
  • Says what the people wants to hear for them sweet votes
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The video is actually worth watching to see how much of a lying knob head this old hag is.

Donald Trump
  • A tanned alien.
  • Thinks climate change is a hoax.
  • Mocks disabled reporters.
  • Wants to make Mexico pay for a wall #MakeAmericaGreatAgain
  • Wants to ban all Muslims from entering the US?

Whoever becomes the next American President, y'all are probably screwed. Are these two parties seriously your only option?

Good luck America <3

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2016, 11:24:37 »
I dont think America is in trouble I think the whole world is :(

Who ever gets in unless they change drastically what will happen?

The world is crazy right now it worries me for our whole future.

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2016, 11:48:07 »
http://www.celebritytypes.com/chart.php?n1=44.4&n2=0&n3=52.8&n4=0

Your political coordinates are:

33.3% Left, 36.1% Liberal

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2016, 11:49:32 »

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2016, 12:22:05 »
Well I'm definitely against Clinton & Trump, also not the biggest fan of Johnson

I'm sure America has better people in it to run for this position.



^Yeah that sounds about right.

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2016, 18:01:27 »
http://www.celebritytypes.com/chart.php?n1=44.4&n2=0&n3=52.8&n4=0

Your political coordinates are:

33.3% Left, 36.1% Liberal
I did the test too and got 19.4% Right, 22.2% Liberal

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2016, 23:28:35 »
Red and Lilly, if you or anyone else is interested in which candidate you align most with in America I have a more extensive quiz you can take. :) It's in detail on specific issues, some solely in America, and then aligns those viewpoints with the candidates.

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2016, 23:40:11 »
Red and Lilly, if you or anyone else is interested in which candidate you align most with in America I have a more extensive quiz you can take. :) It's in detail on specific issues, some solely in America, and then aligns those viewpoints with the candidates.
Link? :D
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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2016, 01:19:25 »
Red and Lilly, if you or anyone else is interested in which candidate you align most with in America I have a more extensive quiz you can take. :) It's in detail on specific issues, some solely in America, and then aligns those viewpoints with the candidates.
Link? :D

I recommend selecting "answer more ___ questions" as much as possible to get more answer and further accuracy. :)
Link: http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

Also, if you just google isidewith, there's a UK version as well.

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2016, 01:37:26 »
Honestly, I am going to vote for Hillary at this point and it is not because I feel like she is the worst of two evils.  I think she has been smeared a lot (I was actually around for a lot of her political career and there is a reason the mud didn't stick - a lot of it wasn't actually true) - she is actually rated pretty honest - http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/fact-checkers-confirm-hillary-clinton-is-more-honest-than-any-of-her-2016-opponents/24196/ by fact checkers.  I am actually an independent voter.  I voted for the Republican mayor for San Diego and I was happy with that vote too.  I honestly would have serious concerns about Donald Trump's ability and experience to be President.  I also am shocked by the Republican Platform (which is not the same as the nominee's views above).  I like fivethirtyeight.com because it is math-based and they try to be factual if you are interested in more U.S. election information.

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2016, 02:12:42 »
Red and Lilly, if you or anyone else is interested in which candidate you align most with in America I have a more extensive quiz you can take. :) It's in detail on specific issues, some solely in America, and then aligns those viewpoints with the candidates.
Link? :D

I recommend selecting "answer more ___ questions" as much as possible to get more answer and further accuracy. :)
Link: http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

Also, if you just google isidewith, there's a UK version as well.
I wish they had an "I don't know/don't have an opinion" alternative on some questions :P At any rate, I answered all of them (the extras too). Apparently Johnson is my best match
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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2016, 02:38:25 »
Red and Lilly, if you or anyone else is interested in which candidate you align most with in America I have a more extensive quiz you can take. :) It's in detail on specific issues, some solely in America, and then aligns those viewpoints with the candidates.
Link? :D

I recommend selecting "answer more ___ questions" as much as possible to get more answer and further accuracy. :)
Link: http://www.isidewith.com/elections/2016-presidential-quiz

Also, if you just google isidewith, there's a UK version as well.
I wish they had an "I don't know/don't have an opinion" alternative on some questions :P At any rate, I answered all of them (the extras too). Apparently Johnson is my best match


You dummy, you could have passed up on questions you don't know anything about lol. You could have just skipped them. :P And interesting that you lean most libertarian.

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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2016, 02:43:16 »
Ah, didn't know you could skip them. I tried to do some quick research on them what I would lean towards :P I was surprised to get a 79% match. In Swedish tests, my best are usually just below 70%, sometimes as low as 60%. I had to add my own alternative answers to a couple of questions. No idea how that affected the result
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Re: United States 2016 Presidential Election Discussion and Debate
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2016, 16:30:11 »

 

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