Yes. Who is the government or anyone else to tell us how many children we can or cannot have

Quote from: Robb on January 26, 2012, 11:55:22

Yes. Who is the government or anyone else to tell us how many children we can or cannot have

 I am sick to death of people breeding when they can't afford to look after the children they produce - especially in Africa.

Quote from: Winter on January 26, 2012, 12:30:51

Quote from: Robb on January 26, 2012, 11:55:22

Yes. Who is the government or anyone else to tell us how many children we can or cannot have

 I am sick to death of people breeding when they can't afford to look after the children they produce - especially in Africa.

That's a pretty naive thing to say. You must not be aware of the amount of rape and other things related that goes on in 3rd World countries?

Have you even seen the population of China despite them only limiting Parents' to have one child (with some exceptions)? They make over 1/7th of the worlds population.

I personally think this world is getting overpopulated too quickly and I am sick to death of people breeding when they can't afford to look after the children they produce - especially in Africa. Also, the amount of children in care homes sickens me. It's unfair on the children themselves.

I think when a certain country is getting overpopulated THEN the government can put a cap on how many children each set of Parents' are allowed to have.

Quote from: Winter on January 26, 2012, 12:30:51

Have you even seen the population of China despite them only limiting Parents' to have one child (with some exceptions)? They make over 1/7th of the worlds population.

I personally think this world is getting overpopulated too quickly and I am sick to death of people breeding when they can't afford to look after the children they produce - especially in Africa. Also, the amount of children in care homes sickens me. It's unfair on the children themselves.

I think when a certain country is getting overpopulated THEN the government can put a cap on how many children each set of Parents' are allowed to have.

It's not that easy though, especially with the African countries. With the high infant mortality rates, families are forced to have to lots of children as a source of income because they are so crippled by poverty. The fertility rate for these countries is often very high, but there are low percentages living beyond the age of 1. In some countries also, there are religious factors, where the more children a man has, the higher his social status, suggesting that children are like 'symbols' in some sub-cultures.

And the governments of these countries? Well, there are many accusations of corruption indicating that most of the figures of authority in these countries do not care about the state of their people as in some ways, they provide them with a source of income. There are too many issues to consider, so you can't just one day "Oh yes, we'll implement birth control policies", because there is a lack of faith in local and national governments. The policies worked in China, because the chinese people are more open to new ideas and they were offered substantial benefits if they complied, however, these benefits are not always available to ordinary citizens of these African countries, again possibly due to the 'corruption' of governments.

I am not suggesting that all of these issues are prevelant in every single African country, because they're not. But there are cases where we are seeing this type of behaviour. I do not mean to rant and generalise to all countries.

/Geography lesson over.

Quote from: Krazy Golf on January 28, 2012, 14:53:24

Quote from: Winter on January 26, 2012, 12:30:51

Have you even seen the population of China despite them only limiting Parents' to have one child (with some exceptions)? They make over 1/7th of the worlds population.

I personally think this world is getting overpopulated too quickly and I am sick to death of people breeding when they can't afford to look after the children they produce - especially in Africa. Also, the amount of children in care homes sickens me. It's unfair on the children themselves.

I think when a certain country is getting overpopulated THEN the government can put a cap on how many children each set of Parents' are allowed to have.

It's not that easy though, especially with the African countries. With the high infant mortality rates, families are forced to have to lots of children as a source of income because they are so crippled by poverty. The fertility rate for these countries is often very high, but there are low percentages living beyond the age of 1. In some countries also, there are religious factors, where the more children a man has, the higher his social status, suggesting that children are like 'symbols' in some sub-cultures.

And the governments of these countries? Well, there are many accusations of corruption indicating that most of the figures of authority in these countries do not care about the state of their people as in some ways, they provide them with a source of income. There are too many issues to consider, so you can't just one day "Oh yes, we'll implement birth control policies", because there is a lack of faith in local and national governments. The policies worked in China, because the chinese people are more open to new ideas and they were offered substantial benefits if they complied, however, these benefits are not always available to ordinary citizens of these African countries, again possibly due to the 'corruption' of governments.

I am not suggesting that all of these issues are prevelant in every single African country, because they're not. But there are cases where we are seeing this type of behaviour. I do not mean to rant and generalise to all countries.

/Geography lesson over.

I mentioned Africa as in my point of view it's unfair to breed children only to have quite a large percentage of them die weeks/months afterwards due to starvation, dehydration and disease mainly. Thanks for telling me how they see it though, I wasn't aware of that.

Some of the African governments simply don't care about their people and keep the money safely in their pockets to give them a cushioned and luxurious life out of selfishness. I find it unfair it's the rest of the world trying to save those African people (in the forms of food, water, health care, etc.) from the harsh and unfair lives they are forced to live instead of the government which are currently doing the exact opposite of what they should be doing.
I think, regarding Africa alone - it's mainly the governments fault for their selfishness and disregard that has made parts of Africa the state of what they are today.