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Madeline McCann
« on: October 17, 2013, 19:03:08 »
I am not sure who is aware of this case of child missing? murdered.

What are your thoughts?



100 REASONS WHY THE PARENTS BELONG IN JAIL 1. Did they use the babysitting service provided? NO 2. Did they use any listening devices? NO 3. Did they leave three children under 4 alone while going out drinking? YES 4. Did they do this every night? YES 5. Did they,under British law,endanger Maddie? YES 6. In the UK is significant harm a form of child abuse? YES 7. Is significant harm used by the UK courts in child abuse cases? YES 8. Does leaving the children as they did qualify under these rules ? YES 9. Did Kate sit writing timelines instead of searching for Maddie? YES 10. Are the frequent checks by the Tapas group challenged by other witnesses? YES 11. Was the bedroom withing sight of where they sat? NO 12, Were they within earshot? NO 13. Did anyone other than Tanner see any abductor? NO 14. Has anyone come up with a credible abductor? NO 15. Is there any evidence of an abduction? NO 16. Were the shutters in the room tampered with? NO 17. Did Kate say the shutters were tampered with? YES 18. Did Kate change her story to saying the door was unlocked? YES 19. Was the door unlocked on any other night? NO 20. Is there any physical evidence at all of a break in? NO 21. Is there any physical evidence of another party being in the room? NO 23. Were the McCann's told not to inform the media? YES 24. Were they told it might harm the chances of finding Maddie alive? YES 25. Were the media informed by a McCann family member? YES 26. Were specially trained British dogs brought in to search the apartment ? YES 27. Did they find anything? YES 28. Have these dogs been successful in over 200 cases? YES 29. Do sniffer dogs lie? NO 30. Do the specially trained dogs get confused by other smells? NO 31. Did they find cadaver(dead body) scent in the apartment? YES 32. Did they find blood? YES 33. Did they find cadaver scent behind the sofa? YES 34. On the child's toy? YES 35. In a cupboard in the room? YES 36. Did they find cadaver scent on Kate's clothes? YES 37. Did Kate explain this by saying she had examined dead bodies before holiday? YES 38. Is there any record of her doing so? NO 39. Has anyone come forward to say they saw her doing so? NO 40. Was the hire car rented after Maddie disappeared ? YES 41. Were tests done on DNA found in the car? YES 42. Did the dogs alert to the hire car? YES 43. Is a billion to one odds that it may be someone else's DNA? YES 44. Were the doors and boot left open to get rid of the smell in the car? YES 45. Did the parents explain it away as rotting meat? YES 46. Smelling due to taking rubbish to the tip in the hire car? YES 47. Smelling due to dirty nappies in the hire car? YES 48. Smell due to sea bass in the hire car? YES 49. Did the parents say the dogs were wrong? YES 50. Do you need tons of excuses if the dogs are just plain wrong? NO 51. Have the dogs ever been wrong? NO 52. Did Kate & Gerry flee Portugal? YES 53. Did they hire extradition lawyers? YES 54. Did the McCann's hire libel lawyers to gag anyone with a different view? YES 55. Did the government lend spin doctor Clarence Mitchell to the parents? YES 56. Dio spin doctors twist the truth for a favourable outcome? YES 57. Are they paid to do this? YES 58. Did the McCann's set up a fund in order to search for Maddie? YES 59. Did they use the money donated for anything other than searching? YES 60. Do the parents have a media monitoring unit? YES 61. Are there internet trolls helping the parents to quash getting at the truth? YES 62. Have the Portuguese police been portrayed as incompetent? YES 63. Did they look at all aspects of the case? YES 64. Did they conclude any abduction took place? NO 65. Did they conclude that Maddie was dead and the parents responsible? YES 66. Are there two British investigations into Maddie being missing? YES 67. Are they investigating ALL aspects of the case? NO 68. Have they been told by the government to focus on abduction only? YES 69. Have they come up with any evidence of an abduction? NO 70. Have they come up with any credible suspects? NO 71. Have they questioned the tapas group or parents over the case? NO 72. Have the parents made millions from Maddie being missing? YES 73. Did Kate write a book mentioning torn genitalia that the twins might read? YES 74. Did Gerry have his wallet stolen at Waterloo station as he claimed? NO 75. Does the CCTV footage from that day bear out his claims? NO 76. Did the Portuguese police ask British government for medical records? YES 77. Were they handed over? NO 78. Did they ask for bank statements? YES 79. Were they handed over ? NO 80. Did they ask for mobile phone records? YES 81. Were they handed over? NO 82. Have the media printed the McCann version of events? YES 83. Are the media intimidated by threats of libel? YES 84. Have the parents admitted they are responsible for Maddie's disappearance? NO 85. Have the parents faced any criminal charges to date? NO 86. No charges for manslaughter? NO 87. For neglect? NO 88. Did the McCann's say they would take a polygraph(lie detector test) ? YES 89. Did the McCann "people" contact Don Cargill head of polygraph studies?YES 90. Did the McCann's tell the world they would take one to prove innocence? YES 91. Have they taken one in the 2'000+ days since saying they would? NO 92. Did the parents impose a list of conditions for taking one? YES 93. Did Don Cargill say the list was "impossible to satisfy"? YES 94. Did Don Cargill state "They had no intention of taking one"? YES 95. Did Clarence Mitchell say they were innocent and did not need to do one? YES 96. IS Amaral on trial because he wrote a book stating the facts of the case? YES 97. Is it a proper account of the police investigation ? YES 98. Have the McCann's fought desperately to have this book banned? YES 99. Is it banned? NO 100. Is maddie missing because of the actions of the parents? YES

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2013, 19:12:42 »
 am not sure who is aware of this case of child missing? murdered.
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Why have you put murdered?

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2013, 19:22:59 »
Becasue the Mc Canns have just got a book banned the book supposedly had "Proof" she is dead 

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2013, 19:26:44 »
I haven't heard of this case, but from what I've read looks like Madeline lost her life because of her parents' carelessness (correct me if I'm wrong)

The case of children dying due to their parents' carelessness is worldwide, boils my blood because these innocent victims deserve love and care

Why have you put murdered?
Because it is a crime

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2013, 19:29:14 »
Do you mean the one that the Portuguese police officer wrote, accusing the McCanns of killing her? Until I see proper evidence, not what is said in some retarded book, I believe they are innocent.

From your first line, I thought for a moment that she had just been found dead and went and searched the news.

I do not understand why the Crimewatch wasn't shown in Portugal when that was the place she went missing, makes no sense. Their police are a waste of fucking time and messed the whole thing up, no wonder she hasn't been found.

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2013, 19:32:31 »
There are millons of children abducted each year, why is Madeline so different?

The McCanns SHOULD have the twins remved from their care

If they were living in council accommodation  they would have.

Ask yourself why take Madeline who is older and leave twin babies

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2013, 19:33:02 »
I haven't heard of this case, but from what I've read looks like Madeline lost her life because of her parents' carelessness (correct me if I'm wrong)

The case of children dying due to their parents' carelessness is worldwide, boils my blood because these innocent victims deserve love and care

Why have you put murdered?
Because it is a crime

It is a crime yes. There is no evidence that she was actually murdered...No body. No proof.

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2013, 19:36:25 »
I haven't heard of this case, but from what I've read looks like Madeline lost her life because of her parents' carelessness (correct me if I'm wrong)

The case of children dying due to their parents' carelessness is worldwide, boils my blood because these innocent victims deserve love and care

Why have you put murdered?
Because it is a crime

You've never heard of it, it was worldwide for months in 2007 and a few years after.

Also lol at the last part, sorry but "because it's a crime" doesn't make sense, Rob asked why she put it because she said "Kidnapped? murdered." suspicions out there that she is murdered but no solid proof.


I honestly think the parents did it, and they've just been milking the case as much as they can for money in the aftermath.

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2013, 19:39:33 »
They have the money to create more awareness for Madeline so of course it would get a lot of media coverage. There have been other cases of abducted children with media coverage, I sure remember Shannon Matthews and that other girl, but those cases have been solved.

This is still ongoing and probably will be indefinitely because I don't see the McCanns giving up, which they could of easily done YEARS ago and no one would of said anything.

I don't see what taking the twins away from the McCanns would solve. They made a grave mistake and they are the ones that are going to have to live with it. Why make the twins suffer? They lost a sister as well.

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2013, 19:52:17 »
I don't see what taking the twins away from the McCanns would solve. They made a grave mistake and they are the ones that are going to have to live with it. Why make the twins suffer? They lost a sister as well.

It would solve careless and bad parenting. Its a no brainer if you think about, who leaves young children under the age of 12/13 on their own? If they are that stupid (which they are) then they shouldn't be able to look after children. Whos to say it won't happen again? Subjects like this anger me. Because of their stupidity a young girl is most likely been murdered.

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2013, 19:53:12 »
ive never heard of this and wouldnt it then be classified as neglect?

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2013, 19:57:33 »
I don't see what taking the twins away from the McCanns would solve. They made a grave mistake and they are the ones that are going to have to live with it. Why make the twins suffer? They lost a sister as well.

It would solve careless and bad parenting. Its a no brainer if you think about, who leaves young children under the age of 12/13 on their own? If they are that stupid (which they are) then they shouldn't be able to look after children. Whos to say it won't happen again? Subjects like this anger me. Because of their stupidity a young girl is most likely been murdered.

Yes. Putting kids in foster care solves all problems.

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2013, 20:43:23 »
I don't see what taking the twins away from the McCanns would solve. They made a grave mistake and they are the ones that are going to have to live with it. Why make the twins suffer? They lost a sister as well.

It would solve careless and bad parenting. Its a no brainer if you think about, who leaves young children under the age of 12/13 on their own? If they are that stupid (which they are) then they shouldn't be able to look after children. Whos to say it won't happen again? Subjects like this anger me. Because of their stupidity a young girl is most likely been murdered.

Yes. Putting kids in foster care solves all problems.

My comment was specific to the the title of this topic, so there's no point in generalising what I said to all children in care. The parents obviously lacked moral judgement and responsibility. They're hardly trustworthy for parenting. I agree with Lilly

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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2013, 20:50:32 »
1. Did they use the babysitting service provided? NO 2. Did they use any listening devices? NO 3. Did they leave three children under 4 alone while going out drinking? YES 4. Did they do this every night? YES 5. Did they,under British law,endanger Maddie? YES 6. In the UK is significant harm a form of child abuse? YES 7. Is significant harm used by the UK courts in child abuse cases? YES 8. Does leaving the children as they did qualify under these rules ? YES

That alone should have been enough evidence of putting these children on the child protection register.  These parents are rich and influential of course they wasn't charged.  yes they have got to live with their actions, but the twins needed protection.


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Re: Madeline McCann
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2013, 02:54:23 »
I believed they did it from day one. I still believe it now, it's just plain wrong to leave children that young unattended. Don't deserve to have children if your going to treat them like that.

As for the aftermath, they are just milking it.

I really hope that one day the truth finally comes out about what really happened. But in my honest opinion they did something and it all ended badly.

 

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