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Offline ShaneGoesArd

Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman?
« on: January 13, 2018, 21:47:05 »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-42652947

So on the latest series of Celebrity Big Brother, something happened which has sparked a debate on the morality of refusing to date trans men/women as a heterosexual. What basically happened was, R&B star Ginuwine was sat around with other members of the house having a discussion when he was asked whether or not he would date a trans woman. His answer was no. A member of the house who is a trans woman, India Willoughby, then made an advance on him and tried to kiss him. Ginuwine reeled away and India walked away.

Since this has happened people have taken to twitter and other social media bashing Ginuwine for being transphobic.

Where do you stand on all this? Was he being Transphobic? Or is this an over reaction to a man defending his sexual preferences?

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Offline Alaklondewen

Re: Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2018, 21:56:26 »
Should a trans woman be passed over for a job because of her gender identity?  No. Is it okay for a heterosexual man to not want to date her?  Absolutely.  We can't force people to date another person...regardless of their reason and whether we think it's a big deal or not.  There are men who don't date chubby girls.  There are men who don't date skinny girls.  There are women who don't date short guys...it's all the same to me. 

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Offline ShaneGoesArd

Re: Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2018, 22:02:32 »
To kick things off, in the interest of debate, I will state that I do not believe him to be guilty of being transphobic. I think that we have our own preferences on who we want to date. He didn't insult her for being trans, he didn't imply any hatred towards her for being trans, he merely said that he wouldn't date her knowing she was trans. That's acceptable right?

Myself, I'm a fairly open minded person, and accept everyone for who they are. That said I wouldn't want to date a trans woman, Why? Because I am a hetero male, I am attracted to women on a physical and emotional level, and just knowing that you were not physically a woman to begin life, I don't know how to explain it, it's not a disgust, it's just a lack of attraction.

I don't want to offend anyone with my views, but it's a subject that's becoming more prevalent within society and one I've been trying to understand. I don't want to be labelled as transphobic just because I lack an attraction to trans women. I mean, I've seen pictures of some that are physically stunning, but it's that underlying niggle, that knowing that they were once physically men that puts me off.


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Offline ShaneGoesArd

Re: Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2018, 22:04:58 »
Should a trans woman be passed over for a job because of her gender identity?  No. Is it okay for a heterosexual man to not want to date her?  Absolutely.  We can't force people to date another person...regardless of their reason and whether we think it's a big deal or not.  There are men who don't date chubby girls.  There are men who don't date skinny girls.  There are women who don't date short guys...it's all the same to me.

I agree very much so with your first point. No one should be passed up for a job just because of their sexuality/gender identity/race.

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Offline Cool like Redtunnel

Re: Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2018, 22:40:33 »
Absolutely not. People are morons and want to give a label to absolutely everything these days. Almost everyone has a preference, sorry (not sorry) if my preference isn't what you are.

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Offline GodFirst

Re: Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman?
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2018, 10:25:17 »
I wouldn't date a trans woman.



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Re: Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman?
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2018, 10:42:59 »
I like my women without a dick.
Lead me, follow me, or get the hell out of my way.

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Re: Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman?
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2018, 12:22:11 »
Obviously being in the lgbt side of things, I've met so many trans women who in a million years I'd have never thought they were born biologically male. I don't think I'd date a trans woman, but I guess idk who I could fall in love with.

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Offline ShaneGoesArd

Re: Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman?
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2018, 13:38:17 »
I like my women without a dick.

What about post op? No penis but was still once physically a man.

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Re: Is it discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman?
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2018, 21:08:03 »
No, I don't think its discriminatory to refuse to date a trans woman or male because if they are not physically attracted to them then you can't just force them to love you and go on a date with shaming language. I don't see how this even can be trans phobia unless if someone responded to the trans person asking about going on a date in a threatening manner and threatening physical violence whilst being abusive knowing that the trans woman/man is open about it all. It doesn't surprise me that accusations of transphobia happens on Twitter since its a platform for morons who want to virtue signal and cry about nothing of any importance.

I'm gay myself and I have noticed that there a lot of vocal people or self proclaimed "transgender activists" in the LGBT community who should really shut up. Even a few transgendered people I know online and my personal life feel the same way towards them. Its sad because they drawing attention to something which isn't inherently trans phobic whilst ignoring  actual issues that affect not only transgender people but the wider community in the LGBT community. I think this has been a growing problem in the LGBT community that a lot of people like myself and some of my friends don't associate themselves with the LGBT community because they are tired of activists misusing words like homophobia and transphobia and setting the movement back and all the rights we and our previous generation stood up and fought for.

Tldr: No, not being attracted to someone transgender is not transphobia, unless they responded with threats of violence simply for who they are. Self proclaimed Transgender activists should shut up on issues like these are focus on real issues that affect the people they claim to speak for.   

 

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