Do you care?

Only Lilly · « **on:** December 21, 2011, 10:20:12 »

While you are all warm in your houses with your presents.

People will be homeless.

What will you be doing to help these poor individuals?

Do you care enough?

Gary Jules - Mad World [Homeless People]

Poverty | The Homeless and The Poor in America | SAD

Rune · « **Reply #1 on:** December 21, 2011, 10:26:08 »

You may say I am cold hearted, but I can't really do anything about it.
In Denmark the homeless people are taken care off, as in a place to sleep and a place to get food from (Some of them choose to live in a different way than most people.)

It's a society problem, I'd have to change the ways of how society function to do anything about it. I can't see myself as a politician.

Daggo · « **Reply #2 on:** December 21, 2011, 11:37:24 »

Quote from: Rune on December 21, 2011, 10:26:08

You may say I am cold hearted, but I can't really do anything about it.

It's a society problem, I'd have to change the ways of how society function to do anything about it.

Runar · « **Reply #3 on:** December 21, 2011, 11:47:42 »

Quote from: Rune on December 21, 2011, 10:26:08

You may say I am cold hearted, but I can't really do anything about it.
In Denmark the homeless people are taken care off, as in a place to sleep and a place to get food from (Some of them choose to live in a different way than most people.)

It's a society problem, I'd have to change the ways of how society function to do anything about it. I can't see myself as a politician.

This.

Also, there's a begger in our city sitting next to a red bank every day. Last year some guy gave this poor guy his house keys while he went away for christmas vacation through the entire summer, so the man got some warmt and he probs took in others too. We don't have a lot of beggers, but they're starting to come more and more, and those here who beg are most likely part of a group where they beg, collect the money together and share, or something like that, so it gives me a bad image of the poor society. Either way I do think different churches take care of em, give them something to eat on christmas and such.

Redtunnel · « **Reply #4 on:** December 21, 2011, 14:45:47 »

I agree with Rune. I know at least one of the churches nearby has free food for everyone who is homeless, lonely or poor at Christmas. We have a pretty good welfare system. As long as you are looking for a job, attend the monthly meetings and properly account for expenses, you will get about ~540 USD/month + your rent paid (that aside, you will also have medical costs covered. To what extent I am not sure, but if you e.g. need new glasses, see the dentist (e.g. $400) etc, they will pay for it additionally). It is probably tough if you have a family to take care of, but I believe it to be manageable.

Winter · « **Reply #5 on:** December 21, 2011, 14:51:21 »

I feel sorry for the homeless people but Rune is right.

Also, in the UK there are places for homeless people to stay such as youth hostels and free housing given to them by the government. There are also places like soup kitchens which give free food to homeless people. It's not ideal for most people but it's better than starving on the streets.

Thunderite · « **Reply #6 on:** December 21, 2011, 15:10:21 »

Only Lilly · « **Reply #7 on:** December 21, 2011, 15:20:24 »

Quote from: Redtunnel on December 21, 2011, 14:45:47

I agree with Rune. I know at least one of the churches nearby has free food for everyone who is homeless, lonely or poor at Christmas. We have a pretty good welfare system. As long as you are looking for a job, attend the monthly meetings and properly account for expenses, you will get about ~540 USD/month + your rent paid (that aside, you will also have medical costs covered. To what extent I am not sure, but if you e.g. need new glasses, see the dentist (e.g. $400) etc, they will pay for it additionally). It is probably tough if you have a family to take care of, but I believe it to be manageable.

I tend to disagree with this, you are not entitled to benefits if you have no bank account, you cant get a bank account unless you have a perm address.

A lot of people have mental health issues and cannot manage to lie independently as they cannot manage money.

So it is not always choice,

Fergus · « **Reply #8 on:** December 21, 2011, 15:32:16 »

Nothing.

Zach · « **Reply #9 on:** December 21, 2011, 15:56:02 »

I care to the point that I've donated $25 a month since I was 15, but I guess not enough to actually get out there and do something. It deffidently sits on my mind. Man now that makes me feel bad for being drunk right now.

Krazy Golf · « **Reply #10 on:** December 21, 2011, 16:34:01 »

More often than not, the situation they are in is down to their own wrong doing. They could easily smartern themselves up and get down to the Jobcentre.

Only Lilly · « **Reply #11 on:** December 21, 2011, 16:44:19 »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16175309

people with degrees cant get jobs, a lot of homeless are young people who have left home due to abuse.

"Too many young lives are being wasted in the dole queue," said Martina Milburn, chief executive of the Prince's Trust youth charity.

"It is frightening to think that more than two-fifths of unemployed young people have been jobless for more than six months.

"Long-term unemployed young people are the most vulnerable, with many trapped in a vicious cycle of joblessness, anxiety and depression."

Redtunnel · « **Reply #12 on:** December 21, 2011, 17:10:22 »

Quote from: Only Lilly on December 21, 2011, 15:20:24

Quote from: Redtunnel on December 21, 2011, 14:45:47
I agree with Rune. I know at least one of the churches nearby has free food for everyone who is homeless, lonely or poor at Christmas. We have a pretty good welfare system. As long as you are looking for a job, attend the monthly meetings and properly account for expenses, you will get about ~540 USD/month + your rent paid (that aside, you will also have medical costs covered. To what extent I am not sure, but if you e.g. need new glasses, see the dentist (e.g. $400) etc, they will pay for it additionally). It is probably tough if you have a family to take care of, but I believe it to be manageable.

I tend to disagree with this, you are not entitled to benefits if you have no bank account, you cant get a bank account unless you have a perm address.

A lot of people have mental health issues and cannot manage to lie independently as they cannot manage money.

So it is not always choice,

Hm, I was unaware of this predicament with the bank account (to my knowledge, you only need an ID in Sweden), but either way, won't the authorities handling these requests help you with the address if it's necessary to open an account?

In terms of not being able to handle money, maybe a guardian could be appointed? You make a valid point about mental health, because everyone may not be able to apply for jobs and whatnot, but a medical certificate will suffice for this. There are stricter regulations for sickness benefits, unemployment benefit etc, but this "breadline" benefit doesn't require a whole lot in Sweden. I can imagine it's troublesome for e.g. alcoholics who refuse treatment and people who are ill and disbelieved by the psychiatric system.

Only Lilly · « **Reply #13 on:** January 06, 2012, 13:36:05 »

Crisis at Christmas 2011

Winter · « **Reply #14 on:** January 06, 2012, 15:21:48 »

It really makes you grateful for what you have. I'm really happy that something like this exists but I wish there was more of these places scattered around Britain.

I'd love to get involved in something like this.

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