Straight to the point, I believe Jagex should allow resets on Attack, Strength, Magic, Ranged and of course Summoning with a restriction level of say... 10 or below in that stat in order to reset.
they should also remove the total level restriction with the combat stats, Most of us skillers don't have 5 attack and strength to reset our 2 Defence. I personally don't have any combat stats but I put this up because I feel Jagex is helping every pure but skillers.

They're allowing skillers who got pray and hp after.eoc when it didn't affect cb get up to 198 levels reset. How is that not helping? 2 packs. 1 for skillers 1 for broken pures.If they expand it they ruin the point of the reset packs. And it's not their fault most people that ruin their accs do it out of stupidity jagex isn't responsible for that

You are missing the point of restart packages, it's not meant for skillers who got combat levels by accident or out of stupidity. It's meant for skillers, who decided to go for hp/pray when it did not count towards the combat level and unknowing that Jagex will return to the old combat formula. Basically Jagex is fixing their own mistakes.

You are missing the point of restart packages, it's not meant for be skillers who combat levels by accident or out of stupidity. It's meant for skillers, who decided to go for hp/pray when it did not count towards the combat level and unknowing that Jagex will return to the old combat formula. Basically Jagex is fixing their own mistakes.

Is. Jagex is not responsile for fixing your mistakes. Whether it be missclicking a lamp, imbuing staves in dg (sry joel) or another dumb reason. Most skillers fuck up in the most obvious ways ever and it's funny how they aren't more aware of the dangers. The point is to keep your acc lowest possible, if you need jagex to grip in you're being aided so much lol.

Also most skillers I see did it at andæ early stage of their acc but chose to keep going instead of restarting

Quote from: Ardo on September 04, 2014, 07:33:59

You are missing the point of restart packages, it's not meant for be skillers who combat levels by accident or out of stupidity. It's meant for skillers, who decided to go for hp/pray when it did not count towards the combat level and unknowing that Jagex will return to the old combat formula. Basically Jagex is fixing their own mistakes.

Is. Jagex is not responsile for fixing your mistakes. Whether it be missclicking a lamp, imbuing staves in dg (sry joel) or another dumb reason. Most skillers fuck up in the most obvious ways ever and it's funny how they aren't more aware of the dangers. The point is to keep your acc lowest possible, if you need jagex to grip in you're being aided so much lol.

Also most skillers I see did it at andæ early stage of their acc but chose to keep going instead of restarting

i agree with runar.  Jagex is not responsible for your  or anyone eles mistake. learn to have fun in the game rather the chasing pixels. so what if that person or yourself is not level 3. not many people care about it any way and not being level 3 will  not  make the acc any less of a skiller.

If someone has invested a lot of time into his account and made an honest mistake, I think it stands within reason that customer support abides to some requests. That concept is hardly unique to skillers. For example, Jagex sometimes help people who got hacked to get their items back. If you view the integrity of the pure community in absolutes, keep in mind that it was already compromised long ago when they handed out resets.

If I compare myself arbritrarily to other skillers, I do it by means of XP. Combat level has no other significance in that context than being indicative of the account build category. For example, if someone is combat 40+, I probably don't view them as a skiller anymore.

I can understand the points and agree with them, we shouldn't be offered all packages to correct little mistakes.

The point I'm trying to raise is in exceptional circumstances reset should be considered as opposed to just shunned off when mentioned. For the sake of argument my case against others.. I've spent 6 years+ on my account and have over 500M total exp. It's obvious I'm dedicated to the account. I'm also aware that it is my own stupid fault, but with how little I play and the fact I don't really speak to people means I'm not told these things lol.

The fact that my combat level is 4 instead of 3 doesn't bother me in the slightest, it's the fact that I'm now not considered a skiller by most and I cannot compete in the skiller highscore list.. Even though I'm a slow gainer I like to see where I rank up.

Combat level has no other significance in that context than being indicative of the account build category.

how so ?

The fact that my combat level is 4 instead of 3 doesn't bother me in the slightest, it's the fact that I'm now not considered a skiller by most and I cannot compete in the skiller highscore list.. Even though I'm a slow gainer I like to see where I rank up.

I was wondering when someone was going to say that .No level 4 skiller list? make your own .

It's becoming apparent you're only here for the arguments, you obviously have nothing productive to say about this.

It's becoming apparent you're only here for the arguments, you obviously have nothing productive to say about this.

Who fucking cares if people call you a fake skiller? End of the day the people that care more about the skiller highscores have shitgier stats than you, they can't say nothing to nobody. You are better than a big chunk of the skillers these days, because you're maxed and they're not
So glad I got cb the skiller community now (mostly iiis) are full of nobodies trying to decide what is a real skiller when none of them got the stats to talk

Quote from: Joel on September 04, 2014, 11:52:33

It's becoming apparent you're only here for the arguments, you obviously have nothing productive to say about this.

Who fucking cares if people call you a fake skiller? End of the day the people that care more about the skiller highscores have shitgier stats than you, they can't say nothing to nobody. You are better than a big chunk of the skillers these days, because you're maxed and they're not
So glad I got cb the skiller community now (mostly iiis) are full of nobodies trying to decide what is a real skiller when none of them got the stats to talk

I can see your point mate, I don't think I care about people's opinions I guess, just the highscore bit and it's not even highscores, more Robert's monthly skiller update!

Maybe he should just have a seperate thing for me haha.

Quote from: Runar on September 04, 2014, 12:01:04

Quote from: Joel on September 04, 2014, 11:52:33

It's becoming apparent you're only here for the arguments, you obviously have nothing productive to say about this.

Who fucking cares if people call you a fake skiller? End of the day the people that care more about the skiller highscores have shitgier stats than you, they can't say nothing to nobody. You are better than a big chunk of the skillers these days, because you're maxed and they're not
So glad I got cb the skiller community now (mostly iiis) are full of nobodies trying to decide what is a real skiller when none of them got the stats to talk

I can see your point mate, I don't think I care about people's opinions I guess, just the highscore bit and it's not even highscores, more Robert's monthly skiller update!

Maybe he should just have a seperate thing for me haha.

wasn't a "skiller" level 3-9 back pre-eoc cb system? If so it shouldn't have much of an affect lol.

Quote from: Joel on September 04, 2014, 12:05:08

Quote from: Runar on September 04, 2014, 12:01:04

Quote from: Joel on September 04, 2014, 11:52:33

It's becoming apparent you're only here for the arguments, you obviously have nothing productive to say about this.

Who fucking cares if people call you a fake skiller? End of the day the people that care more about the skiller highscores have shitgier stats than you, they can't say nothing to nobody. You are better than a big chunk of the skillers these days, because you're maxed and they're not
So glad I got cb the skiller community now (mostly iiis) are full of nobodies trying to decide what is a real skiller when none of them got the stats to talk

I can see your point mate, I don't think I care about people's opinions I guess, just the highscore bit and it's not even highscores, more Robert's monthly skiller update!

Maybe he should just have a seperate thing for me haha.

wasn't a "skiller" level 3-9 back pre-eoc cb system? If so it shouldn't have much of an affect lol.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. It's hard work at the moment with the name changes to I think so hopefully something like that will come in

Truth be told it's less stressful on me because it's not as competitive being on my own highscore table haha

Wow I actually can't believe that there's another man who believes that pure resets should have more restrictions, and that man is from cts!

Quote from: Redtunnel on September 04, 2014, 11:26:30

Combat level has no other significance in that context than being indicative of the account build category.

how so ?

If someone has accidentally gained 3 strength levels for example, his combat stats provide him no significant advantage over mine to deprive him of the challenges of being a skiller. He can only play on the same basis, use the same content as I do, thus placing him in the same skiller category. I acknowledge that staying lvl 3 in and of itself can be viewed as an achievement, but it's negligible in the whole of being a skiller. I don't think this is an opinion that only I have. For example, I have received a lot of praise and compliments for my achievements, but not once has someone said something along the lines of "it's amazing how you have managed to play this long without failing and gaining combat". It's not hard to be or stay level 3, but it may be ruined at any time by a coincidental mishap. It has little to do with the effort you put into the game. The hardship lies within the content limitations.