Castle Wars

Only Lilly · « **on:** February 05, 2013, 13:18:18 »

What do you think about jagex lowering the number of games you have to play to get the completionist cape trim?

I have thought for months that Jagex have devalued skills and 99s

They make the game easier for the younger clientèle I am sure.

Why dont they just leave what's there?

Runar · « **Reply #1 on:** February 05, 2013, 13:21:05 »

5K cw games in the first place was a stupid idea. Mostly because many players barely played Cw worrying about comp cape when they started 5-8 years ago, they only went there with friends to play a few games and kill eachother.

Cw takes about 87 days straight of afking, that is 87 days wasted of your life barely doing anything, so I am sure if they made it 1K in the first place, not so many people would dislike it and I'm sure people would play cw like it's suppose to be played.

nbates93 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 05, 2013, 13:34:38 »

Jagex first started analyzing castle wars when they banned all the maxed people for botting cwars. Why would so many maxed people be willing to bot something so trivial. The 5k cape was added to castle wars to promote game playing. It was there to give people something to play the game to get to. It did the opposite. It added another thing that has to get finished before people can say theyve beaten the game. and mind you its 87 days 24hrs a day. yes 5k games is too much. Jagex knows this. there has always been a need for them to lower this, sad that it took them banning so mnay maxed people to finally start looking into things.

Liam · « **Reply #3 on:** February 05, 2013, 13:35:59 »

The update would be great for players going for trim yes but don't you think it's a bit late? plenty of people have achieved 5,000 Games just to get the trimmed cape and if they lowered it, it would honestly de-value the cape, yes you just have to sit and afk 5k games but that's not the point it's the fact you've stuck at it.

Also there will be a few players going for trim that say are around 3k-4k games done.. what do they do? sit and wait for an update that's either not going to happen or just fuck them over.

Daggo · « **Reply #4 on:** February 05, 2013, 13:36:04 »

I think they SHOULD absolutely lower it. 2,083 hours of Castle Wars is a huge waste of time. Especially when you consider the only difference between Completionist and it's trimmed counterpart is the color of the particles (BTW: gold particles are ftl).

Trimming the cape requires you to essentially do everything the game has in it, from killing all the chompies to delivering ice cream across Gielinor, but no other requirements take quite as long as the castle wars one.

Like it has been said, minigames are in the game for entertainment purposes- there are a variety of different rewards for all minigames...but castle wars offers nothing but tickets for armour that only boosts while playing the minigame itself and includes a bonus 25 minutes of AFKing...for basically no reward.

I don't think Jagex has devalued skills, the players do that themselves. Remember, even if you have the same 99 as someone else, it's never as good as theirs. I don't think the problem is with Jagex making things easier, but at the core, the community's lack of support for the game that they pay to play. Whether you have a trimmed completionist cape, completionist cape, max cape, or any 99...it's only worth what you put into it.

Personally, I'd rather not spend 2k+ hours of my time AFKing to change the particle color on my cape.

Thunderite · « **Reply #5 on:** February 05, 2013, 13:42:47 »

Pointless changing it now. What a waste of time for everyone that's ALREADY done their 5k games. If you don't like the requirement, don't get trim.
It's meant to be for completing the game, not for doing half the requirements.
Next they'll be lowering it down to 99 Dungeoneering and only having to kill 5/15 Champions.

Winter · « **Reply #6 on:** February 05, 2013, 13:59:07 »

It's a ridiculous requirement, wastes a huge amount of time and most people who want trim hate the requirement. I think it should be lowered to 1k and I know that if I had to play 5k CW games I'd lose the will to play the game.

Only Lilly · « **Reply #7 on:** February 05, 2013, 14:06:02 »

People hate certain skills and certain mini games

However so you expect them to remove them from the requirements? Fish Flingers for example, Dominion Tower? where will they stop?

Thunderite · « **Reply #8 on:** February 05, 2013, 14:09:07 »

Quote from: Only Lilly on February 05, 2013, 14:06:02

People hate certain skills and certain mini games

However so you expect them to remove them from the requirements? Fish Flingers for example, Dominion Tower? where will they stop?

Don't forget to half the amount of weeks of strange rocks as well, 30 weeks is far too long! I'm thinking, more like.. 5? Mobilising Armies a pointless minigame as well, no point needing 401 rank, 20 ought to be enough.

Let's just remove all the minigames and make getting 120 Dungeoneering enough for trim after max cape. Free trim for everyone and their nan!

Quote from: Winter on February 05, 2013, 13:59:07

It's a ridiculous requirement, wastes a huge amount of time and most people who want trim hate the requirement. I think it should be lowered to 1k and I know that if I had to play 5k CW games I'd lose the will to play the game.

Pretty sure the whole game is a waste of time. If you can't hack getting the trim requirement, you shouldn't go after it. 1k is a pathetic amount of games.

Runar · « **Reply #9 on:** February 05, 2013, 14:12:50 »

I don't plan on going for trim thus I got no say, but I would say if they lower it, they do it to 2.5-3K, that way people won't miss out too much.
How many got 5K cw games? like 40 people off 50k+ playing?

2.5k-3K is not too far, it's about half the time and seems more reasonable.

wud · « **Reply #10 on:** February 05, 2013, 14:16:05 »

why do people whant everything fast should make it harder

Only Lilly · « **Reply #11 on:** February 05, 2013, 14:22:22 »

It is an instant fast world,

nbates93 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2013, 14:49:50 »

Ill rereply when I'm not driving

Thunderite · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2013, 14:56:31 »

Quote from: Runar on February 05, 2013, 14:12:50

I don't plan on going for trim thus I got no say, but I would say if they lower it, they do it to 2.5-3K, that way people won't miss out too much.
How many got 5K cw games? like 40 people off 50k+ playing?

2.5k-3K is not too far, it's about half the time and seems more reasonable.

The cape is meant to be hard, the achievement is meant to be for the best players. 70+ people had the trim before Player owner Ports came out. It wouldn't be anything special [if you said it was] if 500+ people had it.

Redtunnel · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2013, 14:57:48 »

Are they actually going to (or considering to) lower the requirement? If so, where can I read about it?

I don't mind that it takes an extra year or two to trim the comp cape, but I would prefer more diversity in the requirements and time spent on each more evenly spread. They could lower the number of CW games and add other requirements in its place.

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